Cities Lacking : V

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:35 am

Cities just don't have that special feeling like the Imperial City. I love how it had the different districts and the Arcane University is nice as well. Everything just felt "bigger" to me in Oblivion.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:41 am

Well, on one hand that would make sense. Skyrim is a harsh land and a province(spelling?). On the other hand... It can feel pretty sparse. I haven't been to every hold capital yet. Whiterun is still my favourite so far. It's so friendly.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:34 pm

The Imperial city wasn't that impressive.
It was full of useless NPC's and houses with bugger all in them. Solitude is a much better city in this regard and probably on par size wise.

Vivec, was a good city. The hardware at the time was a big limitation but they did Vivec really well.

I think the love for the IC stems from allot of people who played TES with Oblivion for the first time.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:18 pm

Solitude isn't close in size. It was cool having all of the districts in the IC.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:38 pm

Solitude isn't close in size. It was cool having all of the districts in the IC.

But only really two of the districts were of any use to the player the rest was fluff that you need NEVER take any notice off. What is the good of that?

And I'd argue that Solitude is pretty close size wise.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:32 pm

I've been with this series since day 1. I'm a vet.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:05 pm

I've been with this series since day 1. I'm a vet.

And yet you seem to squeal praise over possibly the WORST edition to the series?

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:56 pm

The probably has to do with Imperial city being... well the Imperial city, the main hub of the empire, it's capital, probably the biggest city of all Thamriel.

If anything it looked too small for that.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:44 pm

What do you mean? Check my history. I've had nothing but good things to say about all of the previous games. Daggerfall is my favorite. I just don't "squeal" praise for Oblivion. Where'd you come up with that?

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:04 pm

The probably has to do with Imperial city being... well the Imperial city, the main hub of the empire, it's capital, probably the biggest city of all Thamriel.

If anything it looked too small for that.

I agree.

For the capital of the continent, it was tiny. And had nothing in it. A half dozen shops, tiny arena and ONE temple?
The white gold tower was a joke too IMO, Half of it was inaccessible by normal means.

@Main event - I appologise, I'd mistaken you for another member. Its quite late here.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:20 pm

And yet you seem to squeal praise over possibly the WORST edition to the series?

Um, there is such a thing as an opinion.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:50 am

Dude, you're doing it wrong, if you are a vet, or just played the old games you must hate all the new ones.

It's a law or something.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:56 am

I like the cities. They all have different architecture and feel to them.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:15 am

You're trying to justify a design limitation by the use of lore... that's cute. The truth is that they're trying to do the best they can do with a outdated engine and an outdated platform.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:01 pm

Cities in Skyrim make me think more of the Lord of the Rings, especially Jarl quarters being Edoras throne rooms.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:54 pm

You're trying to justify a design limitation by the use of lore... that's cute. The truth is that they're trying to do the best they can do with a outdated engine and an outdated platform.

You forgot the bit about the horribly optomised coding too. Its almost a Bethesda trade mark. (I remember when Morrowind wind butt secksed top of the line PC's for no apparent reason until it got a couple patches.)

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:54 am

Once you've seen one Jarl, you've seen them all.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:08 am

Beth should introduce generic NPC's, like Citizen of Solitude etc., roaming about the cities with some generic houses that might not be accessible where they all live(Something like what daggerfall does is tell you that there is nothing of value in the house when you inspect the door). Part reason why cities are so small and lacking population is part due to every NPC being unique aside from the guards. Personally I wouldn't mind some more life even if it means that there there are more generic NPC°s. But Skyrim itself is a pretty small province so adding oversized cities might not be that good after all. .. Just something to consider for next TES.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:19 pm

I dont mind the cities that much, they're could've been more stores added to them but i understand its not the Imperial City where there should be dozens of stores lined up. I truly love Markarth tho. probably my favorite place to be out of all skyrim. Side note tho about the little villages. they could've diversified them a bit more.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:33 pm

Beth should introduce generic NPC's, like Citizen of Solitude etc., roaming about the cities with some generic houses that might not be accessible where they all live(Something like what daggerfall does is tell you that there is nothing of value in the house when you inspect the door). Part reason why cities are so small and lacking population is part due to every NPC being unique aside from the guards. Personally I wouldn't mind some more life even if it means that there there are more generic NPC°s. But Skyrim itself is a pretty small province so adding oversized cities might not be that good after all. .. Just something to consider for next TES.

Agree

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:03 pm

You're trying to justify a design limitation by the use of lore... that's cute. The truth is that they're trying to do the best they can do with a outdated engine and an outdated platform.

Obviously.
What's wrong with trying to make it make sense 'story-wise'?

Nothing 'cute' about it.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:12 pm

I do miss bookshops thou. I realize that nords dosent read much, but there is more than nords in Skyrim.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:55 pm

I dont mind the cities that much, they're could've been more stores added to them but i understand its not the Imperial City where there should be dozens of stores lined up. I truly love Markarth tho. probably my favorite place to be out of all skyrim. Side note tho about the little villages. they could've diversified them a bit more.

Solitude has as many shops as the IC did. Not counting double ups in the IC (who needs four traders of totally useless garbage?)

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:08 am

Where are the bookshops? Magic shops like Edgar's Discount Spells?

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:37 pm

Where are the bookshops? Magic shops like Edgar's Discount Spells?

Same place the rest of the Magic in Skyrim went. :tongue:

(straight up its own coitus)

As for the book shops - That is one thing that is missing from Skyrim in general. I don't think there is a single library in the game.