civil war is dissapointing (possible spoiler... if you consi

Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:21 am

Its only what 5-7 quests? really they shouldn't have made so many stupid ass misc quests THAT never gets a quest arrow on them until a day after you select it. anyone else dissapointed in small war with even smaller battles? don't seem like a war
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Nikki Hype
 
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:21 am

Yeah, I finished the Imperial questline in one sitting... But the end was the most disappointing. I was at least expecting some sort of animation when I killed
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Ulfric
, but no, I just slashed him and... well that was it. The Whiterun battle was also disappointing, at level 12 I was killing the guys really quickly. Didn't feel like a war really. :/
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:11 am

I've only done one side

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Stormcloak. I was a bit disappointed. I'll do the other side and decide then.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:47 am

Agree
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:43 am

Yeah it was pretty much a garbage quest line, for both sides. I only did it for the outfits (General tulius and ulfric's)
I hate that it was just: "hey you, go get this fort then we'll control the whole hold" seriously? 1 fort controls the entire hold? wtf. It would have been more interesting if you had to take several forts and then attack the main hold city. I don't know why they didn't add a "Battle for whiterun" type of scenario for the other major holds. Pretty lazy of Bethesda...I love skyrim and all, but some of these quests-lines are just half-assed excuses for content.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:57 am

While I agree that they were not as exciting as they could have been, calling Bethesda lazy is pretty unfair, along with everything else, they have put in a lot of content in, and I am sure that every single member of the development team will themselves admit that they could have done everything better, but deadlines need to be metand compromises had to be made.
Be happy that it was a questline at all!
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:06 am

While I agree that they were not as exciting as they could have been, calling Bethesda lazy is pretty unfair, along with everything else, they have put in a lot of content in, and I am sure that every single member of the development team will themselves admit that they could have done everything better, but deadlines need to be metand compromises had to be made.
Be happy that it was a questline at all!

I probably won't ever do it again once I'm done with the Imperial side.. -shrug-
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:58 am

I'm just assuming the forts were the last place that needed capturing and other Legion/'Cloak forces were dealing with the rest.

As for Ulric, his (and and Galmor's) corpses were still lying on the palace floor when Brunwulf Freewinter was sat on the throne with the deposed jarls at the dining table. That's a health violation right there.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:01 pm

Yeah it was pretty much a garbage quest line, for both sides. I only did it for the outfits (General tulius and ulfric's)
I hate that it was just: "hey you, go get this fort then we'll control the whole hold" seriously? 1 fort controls the entire hold? wtf. It would have been more interesting if you had to take several forts and then attack the main hold city. I don't know why they didn't add a "Battle for whiterun" type of scenario for the other major holds. Pretty lazy of Bethesda...I love skyrim and all, but some of these quests-lines are just half-assed excuses for content.

^ This
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:01 am

I thought it was a lot of fun (hmm, it might be the only questline I've liked so far), and unlike the MQ or the guild quests it wasn't riddled with ideas that made me shake my head or lol at their idiocy. Sure it was simplistic (I agree that taking a fort shouldn't mean the hold changes hands), but that's normal for Beth, and, because I did the Imperial side, I got to see a lot of Tullius and Rikke yakking to each other which is one of the only good examples of NPC dialogue in the game. Plus I really like Hadvar. Oh, and added bonus: I got to kill Ulfric (with a deliberately placed arrow to the head), and Galmar (who sounds like he has rocks in his mouth).
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:35 pm

Yeah, I wonder if they could have put ANY MORE on one disc.

There's limits to discs after all.

But yes, the Civil War wasn't the main quest.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:42 am

Yeah, I finished the Imperial questline in one sitting... But the end was the most disappointing. I was at least expecting some sort of animation when I killed
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Ulfric
, but no, I just slashed him and... well that was it. The Whiterun battle was also disappointing, at level 12 I was killing the guys really quickly. Didn't feel like a war really. :/

It didn't help that maybe 10 soldiers are there being congratulated on their victory. Made it seem very comical to me.

I was past level 60 and I honestly felt like my allies were in the way more than anything.

Honestly, the Main Quest is pretty disappointingly short as well. What's bad about both to me is that there aren't many choices to be made. TES games are always this weird sort of sandbox where the sandbox disappears when you do official quests and its a pretty straight and narrow railroad. This aspect has been the same at least as far back as Daggerfall, maybe farther. Anyhow, it could at least be longer and more involved....and feel more like a battle. It feels so weird where you take a fort and then magically the local Jarl changes. It makes me feel rather uninvolved. Of course, the Jarl that is deposed then hates ME in particular, as if they know it was me that was personally responsible rather than...you know...an freaking army.

That said, the civil war has remarkable little collateral damage for a war. Amazingly little.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:11 pm

I was just checking my Miscellaneous Quests list in the journal — It's getting rather long. Which ones will I do? Hmm okay, join one of the Civil War factions. What the heck? I've joined the Imperials and four and a bit real time hours later, I am Legate and Ulfric has died by my hand. I killed a couple of Elder Dragons and did some inventory maintenance at Breezehome during that session too. Ulfric's final conversation with me was like, have I done the right thing? Maybe I chose the wrong side. Too late now though.

Yes, I agree that the Civil War was overhyped — right from the beginning of the game, it was in conversations all the way through. After that buildup, the end seemed an anti-climix. I think the war should have been longer and had more side quests. The Anuriel quest at Riften was way too easy.

I should have been demoted for my crimes but in many of those melees at the forts and Windhelm, amidst all that mayhem, I managed to whack many soldiers on my own side and I even managed to whack Rikke and Hadvar several times. Fortunately those two survived.

The thing about Hadvar while I like his character, is that he is on my six everywhere I go in Whiterun except inside Breezehome. His sword is drawn and he assumes a fight stance. I don't think he is a follower because There are no dialog options. Fortunately, this is apparently a bug and UESP suggests a fix.

Generally the war was fun but way too easy for this lvl 44 1H battlemage.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:12 pm

I loved the Civil War quest line. Sieges, assaults, battles ... all the things that are most fun. :smile:

I also thought the background, the political, military and moral considerations, were very nuanced and extremely well done.
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