my personal comment :

1 ) Map is BIG, but NOTHING significant to see. Fallout 3 much better they have Rivert city, oasis, some other town. the setting makes you feel destructive and lonely. but FONV not at all, because there is no Shock and Awe location.

2 ) what's up with the Caesar and Khans in the year of 2987 ? does not make me feel end of the world anymore

3 ) Three Dog do much better than DJ new vegas. he is more lively. the other one make me wanna fall of sleep

4 ) the music FONV very nice

5 ) there is no Nobel Quest. just who fit in charge. side quest nice

6 ) Enemy is awesome, hard to kill.

7 ) skill and perk is perfect, never reach 100. we play to survive not to play a GOD.

8 ) i never use Ammo Conversion.

9 ) even though the FONV map is big, somehow i feel FO 3 have many location than FONV. i don't know why.

this is my personal comment after i almost finish the game. i always have the mood that why i am always on the dessert ? where is the applocaplyse element that create that mood ? perhaps, they make it in NEW YORK or go down San Fransisco ? they have water, bay, bridge, nice building. ocean.

I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to get at.

1) New Vegas was untouched by nuclear weapons whereas Washington DC probably took about 100 warheads (a guess considering that 77 were fired at New Vegas apparently).

2) Caesar is a term referring to a leader. It's like calling someone Mr. President. The Khans adopted the name because it fit them. The Hell's Angels are actually angels from Hell are they? Oh and the year is 2281.

3) Whether or not Three-Dog was a better DJ is just a matter of opinion. I found him annoying as hell.

4) I definitely agree. I love the music.

5) Nobel was the guy that invented dynamite and then chose to donate his fortune to creating a foundation that offers prizes for the advancement of science, mathematics, and peace. You're right that there is no noble quest though to guide you. In fact, that's one of the things I found so appealing. I don't NEED to be a good guy. The side quests are even better though. There's just far more that you can do.

6) This is another thing I like. The enemies are actually challenging.

7) I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

8) Yeah, I'm not sure why that's relevant or what it even means.

9) Fallout: New Vegas and Fallout 3 are roughly the same size... New Vegas probably looks bigger because you can see over much longer distances as opposed to Fallout 3's rolling hills. I never really noticed any less in terms of locations though. New Vegas also has many notable areas that aren't even marked, so that might throw people off.

I think the gist of what our friend is trying to say is this:

(This will probably “tick-off” the OB purist who see all things Beth-as-bad; as well as Beth fans who see all things Beth-as-good)

The mechanics of this game have been improved in many ways, greatly improved, but there seems to be “something” missing when compared to FO3. Atmosphere and the main storyline perhaps?

Granted I’m only 78 hours/level 17 into the game and have yet to enter Vegas (hey, I like to take my time and explore, kind-of save the best for last), my opinion my change, heck, it’s already changed since I first started, but I don’t feel as “svcked” into the game as with FO3.

I’m enjoying the quantity and quality of side quest in this game, as well as the dialogue and depth, but I’ve yet to run across a side quest on par with Agatha, or Oasis, for instance. (I’m hoping rewards from some of FNV’s side quest will be on par with the Blackhawk or Barkskin, we’ll see.)

On the other hand the shear number of buildings, with the same rooms full of abandoned desks and filing cabinets in FO3 got a bit tiresome. (Unlike some, I never tired of the subways).

I could go on and on with my subjective comparisons between the two games. They’re both excellent games, with ample room to please all types of players (if capable of self-control).

In the end, (I’m basing this on console play) I think FNV has the potential to be a greater game, while in it’s unmoded form FO3 is the better game – and I only say this, because in FO3 you can “self-restrict” your character to make it more realistic, thus letting the superior (my opinion) storyline draw you in.

My experience with OB and Beth has been playing on the PS3 (including ES-Oblivion), but I just purchased a top-of-the-line gaming laptop, and I’m about to fire out a few questions on these forums about investing in the older Fallout and Oblivion games.

I did not say the game is bad. i just think visually , in the new vegas nothing interesting to see. except the hoover dam.

when it say NEW VEGAS, i expect to see the the remainning LAS VEGAS in still stand.......lol

but in fact, what i get is....just a plain dessert.

i believe some of you also feel the same way bro.

it is ok, if the game has nothing to do with the fallout 3, but this game. many locations just all dessert, rock, sand, shack, well,..only the dam i enjoy seeing.

i don't compare with other game like Mass Effect 1 & 2 or others. i know diffferent producer have different concept and idea.

but i think for the Video Games. Visually impact and mood is very important. that's the only way the player and the game communicate to each other. I am the Bethesda Customer, I just voice out what i want and need. no offense bro.

What's your point? You like moaning?

1 ) Map is more interesting, more content. Just less per section. FONV makes you feel like your apart of a society, not the only person doing shizzle.

2 ) You can get the Khans to break the deal, kickout the guy from the Legion putting strange thoughts in head, expose people... They just wanted to have the Legion to get all powerful again.

3 ) He sounds like a radio gameshow host.

4 ) Most of the music is the same as FO3, really only 1 tune is something unique and special.. It's rather standard.

5 ) Sure, there's alot of Nobel quests which gets you recognized as a good, serving individual for the greater good.

6 ) Enemy is easy, people are complaining they are not harder, just get some kickass weps and armour.

7 ) Most of my skills are 100.

8 ) I do this all the time, great for the rare stock no-one seems to sell. There are perks you can get to make this more useful.

9 ) Get the explore all perk, there's heaps. Even things not located on primary map.

Krisando,

I have not mention the art work yet. Caesar and Khans, look at their uniform ? does it make you feel playing FO at all ? i thought I am playing Fable or Oblivion ?

Maybe The way i put it is wrong, The Map is Great. but like other say LACK OF INTERIOR DETIALS.


Player have expectations, they are always want something bigger than previous one. i think FONV have to release first before FO 3. it is like Bethesda going backward.

no offfense. I am a critic.

Yeah and what the raiders wore in Fallout 3 made me think I was watching some sick pormo.

well, I think I have to agree with the Resident Evil Producer said, " We Just can not satisfy everybody"