Maybe it is me, but comparing Brink to COD is like comparing Mass Effect to World of Warcraft, They have similar genres, but they are no where comparable. Brink will not be a COD with little kids running around on the map with noob tubes and quickscopes. From gameplay, the Grenade launcher actually seems difficult to use, and doesn't really follow a 1HK. Brink is all about Objectives, COD is about killing. If you want to compare Brink to something, choose something a bit more objective based, like TF2, BFBC, games that requires more than just gunning people down and actually getting something done. I mean. The best comparison is BFBC Goldrush, mostly because it is tier objective related, and you can only win by getting the objective done. I mean, there probably will be a Deathmatch and Team Deathmatch mode for you ignorant gamers, but you'll be the only ones playing it. Real gamers will be getting the real feel of the game in all of it's glory the way the game is meant to be played. COD has it's special mainstream appeal because it is so easy, i think a lot of people are gonna have to learn how to just have this game function well for them. Lot of time playing alone, i know i will until i feel i can really take on everything Brink has to offer me. Brink is the only game i know that I watched the trailer, and went to gamestop and was "I want to preorder in full, now.". There is not another game that i was uber psyched about, other than maybe bioshock infinite, which i did the same... But i get a whole year to just enjoy all of Brink.

I think people just mentioned CoD because of the similarity in the meaning of using the guns and the movement (except SMART). You can't deny that it looks like CoD in that way. Everybody who saw the Brink videos knows that it is about objectives and not just about run and gun. So I don't believe that they really tried to compare these games with each other.

it looks like cod because it has guns and you move....... ya i forgot they invented that concept

So every shooter looks the same for you ? Interesting. I see big differences between BC2, CoD4, MW2, HL...etc. And Brink reminds me of CoD4 reffring to the way you aim and shoot.

He was mocking you. It was sarcasm... XD
Also, I don't see similarites. I see differances, because they are the more imporant concept. And all those games didn't make those sights first, didn't make those guns first either... the military did.
But i see them Aim-Shoot closer to Borderlands, even how the guns move when you run.

I know he was making fun of my statement that's why I asked him if every shooter looks the same for him. Haven't played Borderlands so I can't say anything about it. Although I agree with you that those games can't be compared with each other. Actually Brink can't be compared with any game because it's concept is totally new and unique. Of course some elements were taken from other games.

just commenting on a part of your statement.
there will be no deathmatch/team deathmatch.
it's an objective based game. and it will only contain objective based maps and gamemodes.

though i can see some modder make maps for deathmatch eventually...
wich is gonna be a great loss because some players will never again play objective based gamemodes again, simply because their head hurts when having to think beyond the principle *run, aim, shoot, yell: "owned"*

CoD is a big mainstream shooter
WoW is a big mainstream MMORPG

WoW is often used in the MMORPG scene when a comparison should be made so why should this be any different?
CoD is familiar ground for most of the FPS people (MW2 is not the only game in the series anyway) so it helps to give people a reference point in an otherwise unknown game like BRINK

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Your opinion =/= fact.

Just because you dislike the CoD franchise doesn't mean it has any less merit, or make it "crap".

Like rap, for instance. Not everyone likes it, but it doesn't mean the music is of a lower quality then any other genre just because someone said so.

music=/=games

further more, when compared, rap would be a genre, whereas cod would be a band.
wich makes your comparison even more inaccurate.

as for CoD. it has been, and probably will always be, a series wich copies that what it has done before. adds or tweaks some minor things, and resells it asking the full price.

even got worse, nowadays they ask another 15$ for 5 extra maps, of wich some were salvaged.

it makes the entire franchise: crap

the first one was pretty good, but that's no reason to keep reselling it slightly different and with better graphs. that's something wich should only happen once every 5-10 years.

No wai. You just blew my mind. :rolleyes:

And I'm sorry your majesty, let's change rap to Lil' Jon. Happy now? They're both "bands".

There's no reason to think that "crush the opposition" isn't an objective in some map or another, requiring a certain head-count to win....
I admit that it doesn't exactly fit SD's image of the game, but I could see them putting it in simply for variety.

cute, you take that header of mine, the only thing that didn't do anything apart from showing how dull ****=/=**** is.
and you comment on that while ignoring everything else in my post...


it isn't a standalone objective. it's actually integrated in the other objectives, since you will have to kill some of the opposition in order to do the objective. so in that aspect you would be right, but you can't call it a deathmatch gamemode, since it's not the objective at hand, it's just a necessary bonus.

I thought I was the only one that played CoD1 /sarcasm

Anyways, I think if any MW kids (trust me, huge difference between MW and actual old school CoD) come to Brink they'd play defense, since defense's objective is kill off the offense.

Either way, people will always compare with things that are familiar, ideally, something that is familiar with both the speaker and the listener. Comparisons are just a form of communicating ideas. If comparing Brink to a head of cabbage helped people understand what you think of it, it would be fine.

Heck, the majority of the OP is one long list of differences between the two games, which is in itself a comparison.

Um, actually, no I didn't. I talked about everything in your post that had anything to do with me. But I guess you didn't read the part where I answered how you said my comparison was even more off, because of how CoD would have been a band etc.

And of course I ignored the rest of your post. :rolleyes: That was all about the mechanics of CoD, which I'm not here to discuss.

ah yes, your just here to say we shouldn't be talking bad about a bad series.
nvm any facts that actually make it bad, because that's not your problem. all you are interested in, is stopping people from making clear just how bad cod is.

if you had any decency, either you'd stay out of it, or you'd say just why we can't say what's bad about cod.
not just say we can't talk about it and be off.

Again, not at all. If you wanna talk bad about CoD that's your prerogative, all I was ever saying; was that just because you dislike the CoD series, doesn't inherently make them bad.

You just either misinterpreted what I was trying to say, or I didn't word it as good as I could have. I was only directing my first post at the OP, because he didn't really give any reasons WHY CoD is a bad series, he said he didn't like the noob-tube, but one gun doesn't make a series. All he said (unless i misread his post ) was that CoD is crap and un-innovative, because I said so. Hence, "Your opinion =/= fact."

I was never directing anything at you, because you said WHY you think CoD is a bad franchise, not just "Noob-tubes and quick-scopes won't be happen in Brink like they do in CoD."

he only said that cod is for mainstream gamers who like to have it easy, and that it uses weapons that are easy to use, and are still OHK. other than that he said that brink and cod are quite different and that they shouldn't be compared.

so, he didn't say cod is bad, or at least not in this thread. but i say it every chance i get, because it's a fact, and i want to make sure as many people understand that as i can make understand.

For me it looks the most like Team Fortress 2 or W:ET (Imagine that)! However, since CoD is one of the most popular FPS games on the market it is a good comparison for the sole purpose that everyone knows what you're talking about. That being said the gunplay of CoD4 does remind me of the general gunplay of Brink. That isn't to say the amount of bullets it takes to kill but the overall smoothness and "feel" of using the weapons, which isn't necessarily a bad trait since that is one of the things that CoD4 did best.

That's exactly what I was trying to tell in my post.

How can you say a multiplayer game is easy? The difficulty is pretty much solely derived from the skill of the people in the match with you. Even if the guns kill in a few bullets, have low recoil (Brink has low recoil too) and are...easy to use? What do you even mean by "easy to use"? Give me an example of a videogame weapon that isn't easy to use. Also your opinion does NOT equal fact, just because you hate COD does not make it bad. The reason I don't really play MW2 anymore is because of the community, at looking at all the threads that devolve into arguments I hope the same doesn't happen with Brink.

sheesh people seem to like to get hostile with me a lot this month.
it's easy=it doesn't require thinking, run around, shoot anything that moves(believe me, i've had teammates run after me emptying their guns at me screaming through the comlink "hacker! you don't die!") you win! or lose if you weren't quick enough or couldn't aim.
easy guns= sniperrifle, just press the aim-down-sight button and shoot while the scope is still moving, and if your aim is well enough, he's dead already.
easy guns= noobtube, this one i don't even have to explain but i will regardless, requires no skill, just point it in the general direction and fire.

as for that your opinion does not equal fact, i've been through that already, read the earlier posts.
i tire of people who assume that everything anyone says is based on his opinion rather than any facts he has.(this excludes themselves ofcourse, because everyone knows their own opinion is the ultimate fact)

The problem is the COD isn't a horrible series of games like you say they are. Sure they have some flaws and with any popular game, a high percentage of annoying people in its community. I agree that noobtubes and sniper rifles(and commando) are two of the biggest problems COD has gameplay-wise. Even though COD doesn't have as much of a team focus that is seen in Brink or the fact that guns kill fast in COD make it a bad game factually. Some people would prefer that to Brink, and would probably make the argument that Brink is to easy because you can survive so many bullets. I personally prefer Brink to COD, but even I will admit that Black Ops looks cool, MW1 was a fantastic game and MW2 was great game. I'm not trying to be hostile, sorry if my post came across that way, I'm just stating my opinion.