Congrats Bethesda on a "Clean" game

Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:05 pm

Wow, really?
Just.. wow.

I shall never understand why a natural thing as a human body is worse than extreme violence.
Im a European, we went to beaches on vacation when I was a kid. nvde beaches too.
Didnt really ruin me or anything, except give me a healthy disposition when it comes to a human body.
i.e. I see no reason to freak out over something like a nipble just like I wouldnt upon seeing an ankle.

Yeah its pretty sick and weird that Violence is worse then nvde stuff.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:19 pm

IMO, shielding your kids from sixual content does more harm then good.

What ya going to do when your 10 year comes up and asks about babies? Tell them storks deliver them?

People nowadays are so concerned about shielding their kids from six its laughable. Its a natural part of life.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:38 am

Testify brother.

On the original topic, a kid is more likely to rebel by swearing and having six than decapitating people, I guess that is kind of the idea.

They are more likely to rebel period if you make arbitrary rules and restrictions.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:56 pm

Sometimes I think advlts don't realize how things can affect kids. I can remember being seriously depressed about Ol' Yeller and a film about Joni Erickson's life that was considered "clean," but which presented death in a melodramatic way. Fire safety classes in school gave me nightmares about fire for years. So many of Skyrim's stories are bleak, seriously very dark narratives. I don't think I would expose my kid to that kind of nightmare fuel.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:37 pm

Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, variety of your network t.v series, most concern racsim, death, and dark magic. Open relationship with my kid and talk about the dangers of drugs, decison making and all that in real life. Just rather her see a computer image of fake blood rather than computer graphic of boobs, six, and hearing the f bombs.

Well, this could be a cultural difference then, but I really see no difference. Gore is gore, sixuality is sixuality.

In effect sixuality is much more real since they're likely to run into it much faster and much easier, no matter how much you try to prevent it. Personally I prefer guiding and educating my kid pro-actively in a protective envorinment, not hiding stuff and making it booboo. Because the latter has never worked.

To me it seems totally shortsighted to shun a game if it's got sixuality or bad language, while allowing a game that entices murder, theft, corruption, drugs, etc, etc. It all deserves equal care imho. Either you allow it with guidance, or you booboo it all and stick your head in the ground.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:46 am

The states are incredible six prudes. I couldn't even imagine the backlash that naked news would have in this country. That what happens when a country is originally populated with people looking for religous freedom. Christians ruin everything.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:50 pm

In the FO series "F" bombs all around, girls in vegas in g-strings and pasties on their nips. Watching a horror flick with blood is one thing because it's not real, but six is another story. Hard to watch that sort of thing with your kid folks.

Keep your kids out of my games.

It makes no sense that you can decapitate someone with a broadsword with blooding spurting from their gaping neck-hole and think it's just "not real", but the minute someone shows you a boobie you get all offended. I hate people like you. Sheltering and shaming your kids for a perfectly natural curiousity and at the same time encouraging psycho/sociopathic acts of murder and gore.

Your moral compass is a joke.

If you can't deal with the fact that this is an advlt game and keep your kids OFF it, shut your damn pie hole. Kids should NOT be playing advlt games.

EDIT NOTE: Not all Americans are like these neo-Christian hypocrites. Many of us understand that educating your children has nothing to do with burying your head, and your kids' head, in the sand. And FYI - these kind of people are the ones who raise lunatic children who go hog-wild when they hit college because they have no real-life reference for any sort of sixual/drug-related issues that come up due to their hovering, sheltering parents.

When little Katie comes home from her first semester of college pregnant with a meth habit, then these parents realize maybe they f'ed up.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:14 am

They are more likely to rebel period if you make arbitrary rules and restrictions.
Either that or become Republicans, you roll the dice and take what you get.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:05 pm

These arent kids games so I could care less if a kid can watch/play. However, I know how easy it would be for developers to create a toggle in the options menu for stuff like blood, gore etc. They could probably even do it for sixual themed events as well. Now I know everyone asks for toggles for something in the option menu but something like this I think would be pretty groundbreaking. Mature games could instantly become Teen with features like this. On Xbox 360 I know they have that parental feature so if its on, the game would by default be set to teen. :shrug:
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:16 am

voilence has never really been an issue, if you ever read old fairytales they are kinda graphic, like the story about the three billygoats, where the oldest one stabs the trolls eyes out and throws him down the waterfall, or the kid that had an eating competition with the troll, and tricked the troll into cutting his stommach open so his guts spilled out, and then he proceeded to steal his treasure while the troll was dying. its not just an american thing, its been around for ages.

Sorry to spoil your post but Dam your mum must have had a pretty bad day to be telling you those stories.

I have never heard those, the troll was always butted over the bridge and carried down the river 'ALIVE' never to return.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:29 pm

These arent kids games so I could care less if a kid can watch/play. However, I know how easy it would be for developers to create a toggle in the options menu for stuff like blood, gore etc. They could probably even do it for sixual themed events as well. Now I know everyone asks for toggles for something in the option menu but something like this I think would be pretty groundbreaking. Mature games could instantly become Teen with features like this. On Xbox 360 I know they have that parental feature so if its on, the game would by default be set to teen. :shrug:
You have to get it to where the developer makes money through extra sales to pay for the time it takes to implement this. Either that or just whack a big ol' law down on them and force them to lose money. If they thought it would be profitable, they would already be doing it.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:26 am

IMO, shielding your kids from sixual content does more harm then good.

What ya going to do when your 10 year comes up and asks about babies? Tell them storks deliver them?

People nowadays are so concerned about shielding their kids from six its laughable. Its a natural part of life.

Natural part of life as a teen? I work in the human services field and see enough teen pregnancies because parents don't address it. These decapitiations are not real folks and we do know the difference between reality and a magical little world that we do not live in. Going to a nvde beach on weekends is a little different than promoting six and hearing language that we don't repeat in our home.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:37 pm

actually its a rated M game, but if you feel that beheading people is good for your child, no prob
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:02 pm

Yeah, Skyrim's pretty meek. Otherwise it would hurt sales.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:31 pm

Natural part of life as a teen? I work in the human services field and see enough teen pregnancies because parents don't address it. These decapitiations are not real folks and we do know the difference between reality and a magical little world that we do not live in. Going to a nvde beach on weekends is a little different than promoting six and hearing language that we don't repeat in our home.

On the original topic, a kid is more likely to rebel by swearing and having six than decapitating people, I guess that is kind of the idea.

Basically...
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:31 pm

In the FO series "F" bombs all around, girls in vegas in g-strings and pasties on their nips. Watching a horror flick with blood is one thing because it's not real, but six is another story. Hard to watch that sort of thing with your kid folks.
Im really sorry this is not a knock at your parenting im sure you love your children very much. Context is important and im sure you uavent brought your child up on slasher flicks but your comment reminds me of somethibg that urks me bad: Why do so many people find sixual content more offencive than violent content. All living things have some kind of six, yes clouds of spores may not be as obvious as a hardcoe pormography, but six is natural, chopping, stabbing and beating people(the game has lots of this) into a pulp desensitises you to such things and imo violence is a far greater evil than any mutual six(none of this) act. Same issue with drugs(so toned down in game youd have to play for awhile to get it)...apprently more taboo than say a certain series of moves which photo realisticly depict the of killing of people is sick traps, of course because everyone when to see the saw movies for the 'clever plot twists',(this example of movie violence, imo is far worse than critques talk of computer game desensitising violence) ive had this discussion with many people and so many seen to believe killing stuff is cool (joint the army kids) six and drugs = the devils work!
Personly with things like the db quests and decapitation ect the game isnt clean, its full of savage violence, which without context is much worse than someone shaking there nipble tassles or smoking drugs, (oh but alcohol never hurt anyone, ok kids!'oh but wait to your older anyway, just in case...)Personnely i think the games intelligence level is dumbed down (ie dialougue), still a great game mind you, beth did a great job bringing it all to gether, but i feel this tes will appeal to a younger audience, where as the themes and content should really be 18, I was surprised to see it rated 15.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:48 pm

Beheading, prob something my kid will never encounter, don't plan on us taking a vacation to the middle east.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:36 am

Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait...

Animated decapitations are obviously fake, but animated six and nudity is real?

:blink:
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:44 pm

Natural part of life as a teen? I work in the human services field and see enough teen pregnancies because parents don't address it. These decapitiations are not real folks and we do know the difference between reality and a magical little world that we do not live in. Going to a nvde beach on weekends is a little different than promoting six and hearing language that we don't repeat in our home.

Point being - if you want to bury your kids' head in the sand, knock yourself out. But quit pretending to be all "Holy" because you're a stupid social worker. You're letting your kids play a rated "M" game, so it's your own fault if there is a forbidden curse word or body part (oh no BOOBIES!) along with the perfectly acceptable acts of torture, murder, and mutilation (which you seem to think for some reason do not happen in real life).

You're a moron, sir. Please keep your children off the "M" rated games if you wish to adhere to your own twisted moral compass.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:13 am

Just give the game a mature or 16+ rating or whatever ratings there are, so the prudes can stay away from it.

Oh wait: This game, and the fallouts, are rated M. Gosh, maybe the prudes should stay away then.. :smile:

Natural part of life as a teen? I work in the human services field and see enough teen pregnancies because parents don't address it. These decapitiations are not real folks and we do know the difference between reality and a magical little world that we do not live in. Going to a nvde beach on weekends is a little different than promoting six and hearing language that we don't repeat in our home.

Actually, it's usually either the kids who get raised in prude environments or the kids who get raised in wrecked environments who run into pregnancy early.

If the kid knows what the dangers and complications are, it won't get pregnant. It will be more able to make it's own conscious decisions. It's less likely to get into these things secretly and it will be especially less likely to engage in sixuality to rebel. Besides that, you can't expect to keep a teenager with hormones boiling over through it's ears away from those things. That's like living in a dreamscape, sticking your head in the sand.

And.. uhm. decapitations might be an overstatement. But themes like drugs, murder, exploitation, theft, corruption are very much real. And the game very much incites these. At least with sixuality, when done properly, there's love involved. The things you seem to care less about in your education don't have that, they are the opposite. I will only have my kid play M rated games with proper guidance, and I won't discriminate in real world growing-up issues, certainly not make 'em booboo, and I certainly won't give the message that murder is more acceptable then sixuality.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:58 pm

Danmed american parenting is what this is!
Fact: At the age of 13, your child will know more about six than you.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:11 pm

Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait...

Animated decapitations are obviously fake, but animated six and nudity is real?

:blink:

To add, there's an entire quest line devoted to murder. Do you really think murder only happens in the Middle East? I'd like to tell my friend that, but he's lying in the ground with seven bullet holes in his chest. In the United States.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:55 pm

Im sorry... But i 100% dissaprove with letting a 12 yo play mature rated games. Its bad enough 13-14 yo are having unprotected six in this country, now we want the immature tweens going about slitting throats? C'mon. Wtf is wrong with this world.

To quote some random dude in jay and silent bob strike back:

Nice parentin!
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:33 pm

You're a moron, sir.
lol
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:55 am



Natural part of life as a teen? I work in the human services field and see enough teen pregnancies because parents don't address it. These decapitiations are not real folks and we do know the difference between reality and a magical little world that we do not live in. Going to a nvde beach on weekends is a little different than promoting six and hearing language that we don't repeat in our home.
I'm sorry but if your in human services your part of the problem.
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