I have a Khajiit hunter/assassin type and am contemplating doing the Drak Brotherhood questline, as I believe it might hold some advantages for such a character. I do have a question, though. I am thinking my Character is not evil, per se, So I would like to ask, considering the likely high body count, can any of the brotherhood's victims here be considered wholly innocent?
(without getting specific, please.)

the short answer is yes.

There are several true innocents that you have to kill to progress, yes. You can rationalize it away, though.

Yes, but you don't need to be evil to do the questline, just apathetic

It's basically a pay to kill organisation. They don't care who they kill, as long as they get paid for it. So while some people you will get to kill are genuine [censored]s that have done wrong, a lot are just innocents that have got on the wrong side of the wrong person.

Eh, you get most of it if you take the early option to kill them the minute they reveal themselves. and follow through. Unless you're really a fan of another summon, a horse that usually ends up dead in an accident, and one particular dagger,

very much so, lots of innocent people

No problem. You, as an assassin are no more guilty than a sword. You are a tool being wielded. Your deader isn't your contcern. Its just a job. The Smith who made your sword is just as guilty. (That is to say, not guilty at all)

Edit: That is if you don't worship Sithis.

You have joined an organization who's purpose is to kill people. You are past the point of splitting moralistic hairs.

Havent done DB yet personally, but I have heard from friends that the quests/Story is better then Oblivion, so it must be good.

meh i liked oblivion's more, but skyrim's has a much bigger climix

cant imagine how anyone could find that to be true. it is shorter and the quests are more simplistic.

that said, since you're joining an organization whose express purpose is to murder people in cold blood, I would say yeah its pretty much evil.

But not past splitting hairs attached to somebody's head, mwa ha ha ha.

My second character (dark elf, mage/thief) is attempting to take this route. It's out of my normal play style since I tend to be stupidly lawful good in my choices. When I get to that point it will be a challenge for me. It was hard enough to get myself into the thieves guild. Feel all guilty as a player and all when I do mean things. LOL. But We'll see how it goes. He's not into the DB yet, but is well on his way.

If I start feeling too guilty, I shall play with my first character. He's a goody-two-shoes and that'll make me feel better

I almost didn't do the second to last.. I felt so cruel.

You're absolutely correct, and I agree.

However, I've discovered in the past few weeks that there are certain players for whom certain things are game-breakers. I've read several threads in which players stated they stopped playing the game because of one issue - and quite a few of those were issues on a much lower scale than killing an innocent person.

I'ts just amazing.

I've barely scratched the surface so far in the DB questline, so no worries about me feeding spoilers. But I can, regardless, add a thought about justifying quests(lines) that seem tenuous in a given roleplay: backstory combined with remembering that the character knows less about the world than you do. In otherwords, being naive, misinformed, or idealistic often means we do things that seem off-kilter morally/ethically.

My current character, e.g., doesn't exactly like killing. But her backstory (a loooong story going back generations) involves a certain ideology associated with the DB. However, now that she's joined, her idealism (and associated naivety) are beginning to wither. Where she goes from here, well, depends upon how *her* story plays out. The beauty of TES is that you can abandon any questline whenever you want and there's still a whole world available as a backdrop to your character's story.

Skyrim does that to you eagle

I have a habbit of not joining organizations that sent out assassin's after my characters. So i did the flip side quest, and destroyed the dark brotherhood instead:D

Well, I'm not necessarily all that reticent about killing innocents, I was thinking maybe at that my character, while not necessarily evil, is selfish and will do most anything if it will benefit her, but that at the end of the DB line is feeling guilty about all the innocents she has caused to suffer and is now going to try to reform and devote herself to saving Skyrim in order to atone for her past misdeeds. This is the plan anyway.
Do you think that rationalisation would work?

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yet, a valid point can be found here, if you wish to continue

Concerning the Dark Brotherhood, I was wondering whether it's possible to make the attacks against you stop without joining the group? I've never murdered anyone or done something bad enough to make an npc send assassins after me, so I assume it's part of the DB quest (or at least that's what I've heard). So heh, not really possible to kill the contractor. No spoilers please, I still want to play the DB quest with another character.

I don't see DB as an evil organization, you see, back on Oblivion at the very first kill, Rufio if you talk to him he will say something like this before run away: "I didn't mean to hurt her, I just told her to stand still she won't listen" what lead us to believe he was a raqer and a murderer. Now again on skyrim there are similar dialogues, although the most disgusting characters of the game are not available to kill.

There are three quests unrelated to DB where certain NPC's will hire assassin's to kill you if you suceed. One's related to the Thieves Guild. Ones Related to the Blades, and the third is related Stormcloaks. As you don't want spoilers thats all i'll say about them, but they definaetly arn't related to the DB quest line.

But you seem to get the Dark Brotherhood assassination attempt when you haven't done anything bad to anybody. I've had it rreally early when all I'd done is go to Bleak Falls Barrow, go to Whiterun and kill the first dragon.

Come to think of it I stole some ingots off that guy in Riverwood, but nobody saw me and I think it's hired thugs for theft.

If your looking at it from a moral stand point, then why join? Killing people for a living was suppose to be bad for "moral" ideas I thought.

But from a non moral stand point, it almost makes you wish we could kill the children. Irony being in their guild at the time.