Constant vampire attacks (Whiterun)

Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:04 am

Vamps posing a threat to citizens is fine in fact I like it but when I come out of the Bannered mare and citizens that wont get replaced are being slaughtered by the front gate its not fine. Ether new NPCs should replace the killed ones or they should be programmed to run for it when vamps show up. I would prefer them to be replaced as if NPCs always run for it and never die then the attacks would have no danger in them at all.

If that were the case, then they might as well not even exist if there is no danger posed to them.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:35 pm

Once in every blue moon. More frequent before starting dawnguard. Less so during, and none at all after. At least for me. Some people still get them afterwards. And they seem to attack more often at night, which makes sense.

For those who haven't played it yet like myself this vamp attack business is confusing, what I mean is, some people make it sound like they are constantly attacking and ghost towns abound, others like yourself haven't had any problems at all. So which is it, are they a problem or not? I think the best thing those of us on PC or PS3 can do is get the DLC when it's available to us and see for ourselves.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:21 am

If that were the case, then they might as well not even exist if there is no danger posed to them.

How would people getting replaced with someone new after a time period of say a month mean there is no danger to them ?.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:55 pm

How would people getting replaced with someone new after a time period of say a month mean there is no danger to them ?.

I thought u meant the same exact person being respawned.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:22 pm

For those who haven't played it yet like myself this vamp attack business is confusing, what I mean is, some people make it sound like they are constantly attacking and ghost towns abound, others like yourself haven't had any problems at all. So which is it, are they a problem or not? I think the best thing those of us on PC or PS3 can do is get the DLC when it's available to us and see for ourselves.

I honestly cant answer that. All I can tell you is that I dont have a problem with 'em, no one I know has a problem with 'em, in fact, every1 I know likes them.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:25 am

I honestly cant answer that. All I can tell you is that I dont have a problem with 'em, no one I know has a problem with 'em, in fact, every1 I know likes them.

Thanks. I think we have enough people saying that these attacks aren't a problem that those who haven't got DG yet shouldn't let these vamp attacks put them off getting DG and seeing for themselves.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:10 am

I thought u meant the same exact person being respawned.
Nar someone new it shouldn't be to hard for them to code something to randomly create a personality for new NPCs.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:15 am

Thanks. I think we have enough people saying that these attacks aren't a problem that those who haven't got DG yet shouldn't let these vamp attacks put them off getting DG and seeing for themselves.

Indeed. This argument is pointless really, since everyone's situation is different. Just because I dont have a problem, doesnt mean that everyone else is bad, but I still say that its not that big an issue that requires a fix from Bethesda. Dawnguard is excellent, and shouldnt be avoided due to such a small problem.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:42 pm

You know what would be useful? Having your housecarls and other unused followers patrol cities for vamp attacks. Someone gotta make a mod for that on the PC. That and "gifting" NPCs equipment.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:57 am

Indeed. This argument is pointless really, since everyone's situation is different. Just because I dont have a problem, doesnt mean that everyone else is bad, but I still say that its not that big an issue that requires a fix from Bethesda. Dawnguard is excellent, and shouldnt be avoided due to such a small problem.

Agreed 100%
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:16 am

Someone needs to go watch the first episode of the Twilight Zone, because THAT is going to be my Skyrim soon. ColonelKillaBee is a hardheaded moron who can't see past his own fat nose to what problems other people are having. Again, watch the Twilight Zone's first episode, where not a soul is left in town at all. I don't give a dam if you're not having the problem but MY LEVEL 26 CHARACTER CANNOT CONTEND WITH VAMPIRES AT ALL. Killing them by himself, yes, but he can do nothing in the way of defending the townspeople. On the first page of this I stated every single possible way I could have tried to stop them, and NONE OF THEM WORKED, AT LEAST ONE PERSON DIED. I am not calling this a glitch in the traditional sense, yes what happens is how it is supposed to happen because the game says "Vampires will attack towns and try to kill people - civilians will try to stop them." That's how the game works but that is the exact problem. It's an oversight and a huge misjudgement to force defenseless AI's to attack four Master Vampires, three thralls, and five Death Hounds with nothing but knives. If they were replaced, I'd be fine with that- I have no care whether I buy iron ingots from Adrianne or some other sap, but those roles of trader and blacksmith should not just vanish because of these vampire attacks.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:50 am

Someone needs to go watch the first episode of the Twilight Zone, because THAT is going to be my Skyrim soon. ColonelKillaBee is a hardheaded moron who can't see past his own fat nose to what problems other people are having. Again, watch the Twilight Zone's first episode, where not a soul is left in town at all. I don't give a dam if you're not having the problem but MY LEVEL 26 CHARACTER CANNOT CONTEND WITH VAMPIRES AT ALL. Killing them by himself, yes, but he can do nothing in the way of defending the townspeople. On the first page of this I stated every single possible way I could have tried to stop them, and NONE OF THEM WORKED, AT LEAST ONE PERSON DIED. I am not calling this a glitch in the traditional sense, yes what happens is how it is supposed to happen because the game says "Vampires will attack towns and try to kill people - civilians will try to stop them." That's how the game works but that is the exact problem. It's an oversight and a huge misjudgement to force defenseless AI's to attack four Master Vampires, three thralls, and five Death Hounds with nothing but knives. If they were replaced, I'd be fine with that- I have no care whether I buy iron ingots from Adrianne or some other sap, but those roles of trader and blacksmith should not just vanish because of these vampire attacks.

Wow, you mad bro? Read my previous post. I would cool it on the insults. Also, it sounds like your character needs some MAJOR revising if you cant contend with vamps at level 26.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:30 pm

Skyrim logic:
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:03 pm

Wow, you mad bro? Read my previous post. I would cool it on the insults. Also, it sounds like your character needs some MAJOR revising if you cant contend with vamps at level 26.
So throw out the whole Elder Scrolls thing where I can do whatever I want whenever I want to? Got to go be a badass now I guess, no room for us simple blacksmith enchanters to level our skill in peace.....
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:45 am

Skyrim logic:
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4779658_700b_v1.jpg
By the way, great cartoon!
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:01 pm

So throw out the whole Elder Scrolls thing where I can do whatever I want whenever I want to? Got to go be a badass now I guess, no room for us simple blacksmith enchanters to level our skill in peace.....

Blacksmith enchanters are the easiest class in this game to play. You become completely overpowered lmao
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:32 am

So throw out the whole Elder Scrolls thing where I can do whatever I want whenever I want to? Got to go be a badass now I guess, no room for us simple blacksmith enchanters to level our skill in peace.....

Well, if you're dumb enough not to level up some kind of combat skill first, then you have no right to complain, and you dug your own grave. Especially at such a low level. And these two skills should help you with your survival, and lead to very powerful characters so your statement is very ignorant.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:11 pm

On one of my saves vampire attacks are frequent. My newer saves...They're nonexistent :ermm: .
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:44 am

Well, if you're dumb enough not to level up some kind of combat skill first, then you have no right to complain, and you dug your own grave. Especially at such a low level. And these two skills should help you with your survival, and lead to very powerful characters so your statement is very ignorant.
But if that's what I want to do, don't hinder me.

I am a blacksmith enchanter with two-handed weapons and alteration. And a werewolf. Which is perfectly valid, but I need some time to get my sh*t together and these vampire attacks don't give me that because I don't have anything that can rapidly pacify or dispose of large numbers of enemies at once without losing at least one person. Stop being a dolt and see that this is a problem for some people and needs to be resolved. All it would take would be to make AI actually run away from the damn vampires.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:45 am

But if that's what I want to do, don't hinder me.

I am a blacksmith enchanter with two-handed weapons and alteration. And a werewolf. Which is perfectly valid, but I need some time to get my sh*t together and these vampire attacks don't give me that because I don't have anything that can rapidly pacify or dispose of large numbers of enemies at once without losing at least one person. Stop being a dolt and see that this is a problem for some people and needs to be resolved. All it would take would be to make AI actually run away from the damn vampires.

If you're a level 26 and dont have your [censored] together by then, then you need to devise a better plan for your character. That is your fault, not the developers.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:56 pm

I've been doing the companions quests first with my newest character, and I fast travel to dragons reach to run to jorvaskr quickly. I was going to hit breeze home after picking up a new mission when I see a bunch of bodies in the market, and at the gates. Apparently a battle was raging while I was busy selling crap to eorlund, oblivious to what was happening down the street. This is getting out of hand.

Yea, you're right. All the complaints about vamp attacks certainly are. Why didn't you check out the damn town before you went on your little shopping spree? Oh, that's too much trouble? Then you deserved to lose some NPCs.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:18 pm

Yea, you're right. All the complaints about vamp attacks certainly are. Why didn't you check out the damn town before you went on your little shopping spree? Oh, that's too much trouble? Then you deserved to lose some NPCs.

This made me lol.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:27 am

Its NOT a bug. That is intended. Its a feature. That is what beth told us during the beta. And i didnt insult any1 by saying they should use their grey matter. Thats another way of saying think more and find a way to deal with their issue. No different than overcoming any obstacle in the game. Sorry if my previous statement came out in an overly negative tone.
So your telling me that vampires attacking in broad daylight is part of the game? and did you hear what i said the attacks are also going on even if i'am not around that hold and way across the map some where else ...tell me how can i avoid that?
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:14 am

The only things that I will agree on are that NPCs need combat (or lack thereof) roles. Bethesda should look at upping the AI for future games. "Oh look, a dragon. All I have is my clothes and a dagger. I can take him." No, no you cannot Mr. NPC. Excessive fast traveling and being lazy and not patrolling towns before going on about your business seem to be the largest contributing factor to NPC deaths. I take carriages to capitals and walk everywhere else. I've lost 2 people, Amren and Belethor, because I made the mistake of going to Jorrvasker to turn in a quest at night. That is one of the things that can trigger an attack. I saw the fight as I was headed to Breezehome, but it was too late. I attacked the MV, but the thralls were too much for the other 2 (the guards were dead already). I still don't want Bethesda to change a thing, other than make normal citizens run for their lives/into their houses and lock the doors when trouble starts. I will say that vampire attacks during the day are most likely a bug. If you have a quest to turn in and will be a long way from the front gate, do it during the day. Otherwise, get ready to look for a new place the shop.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:57 am

So your telling me that vampires attacking in broad daylight is part of the game? and did you hear what i said the attacks are also going on even if i'am not around that hold and way across the map some where else ...tell me how can i avoid that?

1. Yes 2. They only spawn when u enter an area, so lies I say.
Its more than likely that they just killed ur guys while u werent paying attention. They cant spawn and kill people while ur not tin the area. They can spawn far away from u in the same area though. Thats about it.
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