Are you using OSR?

nope

Have you grabbed Wrye Bash v282?

Yeah, I had the 281 bug with DLC_MOBS.esp, so I grabbed 282 a bit ago.

ED: its probably something stupid.

Post your current load order, please. I also recommend installing OSR and Fast Exit v2, if you do not already have it. True, the save might be bad. Can you rollback another save or two, to see if you can get it working. If you need to advance through the quest again, look it up on the UESP wiki pages. The relevant set quest stage commands should be listed on the quest's page.

Thanks for helping me this long. its been CTDing since the start though, so eh. The only way to know would be a fresh character. Anyway, here is the new load order. It might be a prob with however I'm doing archive invalidation though. I kinda didn't do anything, just installed QTP3/EVE via BAIN and let Bash do whatever it does.

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]08  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]09  Artifacts.esm0A  Better Cities Resources.esm0B  CM Partners.esm0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0D  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0E  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0F  Better Cities .esp10  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp11  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp12  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp13  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp14  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]15  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp17  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  All Natural - EW + AWS.esp  [Version Final]1A  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp1B  WindowLightingSystem.esp**  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp1C  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]1D  P1DseeYouSleep.esp1E  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.7]1F  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.5]20  moDem's City Life - BP Compat.esp21  DLCHorseArmor.esp22  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]23  DLCOrrery.esp24  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]25  DLCVileLair.esp26  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]27  P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp28  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp29  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2A  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]2B  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp**  Armamentium female.esp2C  DLCThievesDen.esp2D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2F  ExnemRuneskulls.esp++  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]30  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]31  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp33  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]34  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]35  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp36  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]37  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]++  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]38  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp  [Version 1.35]39  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3B  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]3C  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3D  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]40  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]41  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]42  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]43  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]44  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]45  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]46  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]++  Fransfemale.esp47  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp48  Artifacts.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]49  Castle_Wolfspike.esp4A  Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp4B  JolardHome.esp4C  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]4D  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp4E  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]4F  DLCFrostcrag.esp50  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]51  Knights.esp52  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]++  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp**  DLC_MOBS.esp53  Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp54  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]55  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]56  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]57  xulTheHeath.esp58  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp59  XulEntiusGorge.esp5A  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]5B  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]5C  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]5D  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]5E  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]5F  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]60  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.2]61  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]62  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]63  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]64  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]65  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]66  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp67  xulPantherRiver.esp68  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]69  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]6A  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.3]6B  xulBlackwoodForest.esp6C  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]6D  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.1]6E  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp6F  Castle_Seaview.esp70  CastleSeaview+LostCoast Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]71  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp72  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp73  HelmetFOV.esp74  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp75  RealisticFatigue.esp76  RealisticHealth.esp77  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.3.4]78  RealisticLeveling.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]79  CM Partners.esp7A  CM Partners NPC.esp7B  CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp7C  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp7D  Aliyah.esp7E  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp7F  Better Cities Full.esp80  BCBravilFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp81  BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp82  BCCheydinhalFULL-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp83  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp84  BCSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.esp85  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp86  Better Imperial City.esp87  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9]88  Bashed Patch, 0.esp89  OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp  [Version 1.33]8A  FormID Finder4.esp8B  kuerteeActorDetails.esp8C  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.2]8D  Streamline 3.1.esp

If you are using OBMM, make sure BSA redirection is set in Archive Invalidation, but I think it is set to that for default. Therefore, you probably do not need to do anything more for archive invalidation.

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/outdatedmods


Remove for the sake of stability:

47 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]


You may want to test on a new game. Try the this first run guide: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/runoblivion/firstrun.

Did all 3, new load order below.

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]08  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]09  Artifacts.esm0A  Better Cities Resources.esm0B  CM Partners.esm0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0D  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0E  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0F  Better Cities .esp10  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp11  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp12  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp13  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp14  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]15  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp17  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  All Natural - EW + AWS.esp  [Version Final]1A  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp1B  WindowLightingSystem.esp**  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp1C  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]1D  P1DseeYouSleep.esp1E  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.7]1F  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.5]20  moDem's City Life - BP Compat.esp21  DLCHorseArmor.esp22  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]23  DLCOrrery.esp24  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]25  DLCVileLair.esp26  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]27  P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp28  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp29  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2A  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]2B  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp**  Armamentium female.esp2C  DLCThievesDen.esp2D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2F  ExnemRuneskulls.esp++  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]30  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]31  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp33  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]34  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]35  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp36  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]37  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]++  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]38  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp  [Version 1.35]39  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3B  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]3C  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3D  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]40  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]41  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]42  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]43  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]44  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]45  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]46  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]++  Fransfemale.esp++  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp47  Artifacts.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]48  Castle_Wolfspike.esp49  Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp4A  JolardHome.esp4B  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]4C  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp4D  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]4E  DLCFrostcrag.esp4F  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]50  Knights.esp51  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]++  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp**  DLC_MOBS.esp52  Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp53  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]54  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]55  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]56  xulTheHeath.esp57  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp58  XulEntiusGorge.esp59  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]5A  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]5B  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]5C  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]5D  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]5E  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]5F  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.2]60  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]61  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]62  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]63  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]64  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]65  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp66  xulPantherRiver.esp67  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]68  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]69  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.3]6A  xulBlackwoodForest.esp6B  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]6C  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.1]6D  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp6E  Castle_Seaview.esp6F  CastleSeaview+LostCoast Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]70  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp71  HelmetFOV.esp72  Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp73  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp74  RealisticFatigue.esp75  RealisticHealth.esp76  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.3.4]77  RealisticLeveling.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]78  CM Partners.esp79  CM Partners NPC.esp7A  CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp7B  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp7C  Aliyah.esp7D  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp7E  Better Cities Full.esp7F  BCBravilFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp80  BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp81  BCCheydinhalFULL-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp82  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp83  BCSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.esp84  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp85  Better Imperial City.esp86  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9]87  Bashed Patch, 0.esp88  OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp  [Version 1.33]89  FormID Finder4.esp8A  kuerteeActorDetails.esp8B  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.2]8C  Streamline 3.1.esp

Almost done...Remove Exnem Runeskulls and the FCOM plugin for it. That is what MMM's Diverse Runeskulls add-on is for. Rebuild your bashed patch ad re-run TES4LODGen after making that change. Then run through the First Run Guide again. What is Modem's City life BP Compat? You do not have Beautiful People installed. Remove MMM Resized Races. You are using COBL Races Balanced, which already changes the sizes of the vanilla races. Outside of those things, the rest is going to depend on how good your system is.

This reply won't be about load order etc. Just information that helped me greatly with the crash when loading new areas or making transitions. Possibly way off target but you never know.

I have a 500gig Seagate hard drive and recently found out there was a problem when large amounts of data were being read and transferred. I was able to find a firmware update for the drive and since then I have not crashed once, playing for 3 to 4 hours at a time. Game also runs much smoother now. Don't know if this could be of any help but sure worked for my situation.

The HDD is important sometimes too. I forget that all of the time. I created a http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/install/pcspecs page, and that is definitely worth mentioning there and on the Stabilization page directly, thanks.

I amended the list here: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization.

Thanks for those ideas. I'll look and see if my WD640 has any such updates. Anyway, I have been playing since that last post and have not crashed, so I think most of the issues have been solved. This may be as good as it gets, and that isn't so bad. Anyway, thanks for the specs pages. I hate how poorly optimized Oblivion is. My modded(better graphics than vanilla max settings!!) Crysis / Crysis Warhead installations run at higher fps than Oblivion with QTP3/FCOM. Even as big as these mods are, Ob should not be dragged down farther than modded Crysis, and Oblivion doesn't even have to deal with AA, which I do have set on Crysis / Crysis Warhead. Truly a sad state of affairs :\.

Oblivion should perform more poorly than Crisis if Crisis is designed to take advantage of multiple cores.

Not beyond 2, it only performs physics on the second core though IIRC. With a hyperthreaded, 3,2 GHZ quad core though, nothing should be able to bring that to its knees :\.

I do not know anything about Crisis' game engine, just saying... If you are just talking about QTP3 + FCOM, of course that setup should not be choking over it. After PyFFI-optimizing QTP3, it ran at the same specs as vanilla with my 3.0 GHz E8400 and HD4870 1GB.

Can I still run PyFFI on QTP3? Or have I installed too many things on top of it to do so safely? I know it is way too late for me to do so to the vanilla / unofficial patch meshes without breaking a lot of things :\

You can still run PyFFI on QTP3. In fact, the latest versions of PyFFI are good enough that you can probably just right-click on a folder to optimize its contents. If you had BAIN this would be a really simple situation to remedy.

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/optimization/pyffi

I do have BAIN . I actually followed your guide when making my install, so my FCOM packages are arranged to your specs. I guess I could also unpack and repack the vanilla BSAs right? I seem to remember being able to be banned or something for posting the BSA extraction / rebuilding program though :\. Then again that was a really long time ago, so maybe it's okay now. Could've also been a different tool.

Right, I keep forgetting, haha. Go to the PyFFI-Optimized Modules list under optimization and download the QTP3 PyFFI Fixed patch. You can just use OBMM, so... Do not worry about that now. I thought you wanted to be able to play the game. You can PyFFI your meshes yourself again later...

Yeah haha, want to get some playing in before I unpack & repack the vanilla BSAs w/ pyffi. I need to eat, so I turned PyFFI loose on my entire meshes folder. That's not a bad idea, is it? <_<. PyFFI seems to be going pretty slow :\. Then again I'm using Python 2.5, is it multicore or something if I use 3.2? I seem to remember that Bash can't take certain versions higher than 2.5.

For the most part it should be fine, but someone just caught something which I have not posted on my site's PyFFI page.

Files that PyFFI cannot handle. Add the part in quotes to your skip list.
\meshes\architecture\statue\nightmotherstatuebase.nif - "nightmotherstatuebase.nif"

"Skip list?" Whoops.

The skip list is in the oblivion_optimize.ini in the "\PyFFI\utilities\toaster" folder. Add the part in quotes (minus the ".nif" part) to the end of the skip list. Since you are already PyFFI-optimizing everything, just extract that one file out of one of your backup to replace it.

Ah okay, so it automatically uses a pretty good skip list already then? Even though I'm using the right click optimize. I presume its safe to do this on the MMM BSA as well? I ripped that apart and started optimizing.

ED: I fed it the entire BSA / my entire meshes folder. Does PyFFI have issues doing creature / body meshes / etc?

No. The default skip list takes care of the vanilla meshes that need to be skipped. Do not worry about it. Did you use the right-click method?