Cyrodiil and Morrowind

Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:39 am

Personally I don't want to go back. Why would we go back when we still have Black Marsh, Elswyr, Hammerfell, Summerset Isle, Valenwood, and even High Rock to go back to and explore in full 3-D. Do not get me wrong here. I loved Oblivion and Morrowind games but there is so many new places we haven't gone to and yet people want to see what we have seen before.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:18 pm

i agree to a point, i think it'd be a bit extravagant to drop those whole realms into Skyrim but it'd be neat to have them add in some of the parts right along the Skyrim border...like maybe one or 2 towns in each
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:22 am

New Provinces are for New Games.

In Arena, we went to every province, does that mean we shouldn't go anywhere else and just let TES die?

Also, Morrowind only took you to Solthiem and Vvardenfell. There's a huge chunk of land in Morrowind that hasn't been seen yet, enough for a whole new game, that's for sure.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:23 pm

I agree, but i don't want them tacked on to skyrim as add ons or expansions. i also don't want them to attempt the other provinces until they have the technology to do them justice.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:44 pm

didnt morrowind have a volcanic eruption and get taken over by argonians or some wierd crap like that?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:57 am

didnt morrowind have a volcanic eruption and get taken over by argonians or some wierd crap like that?

After many years of free room and board. Jobs and the purpose that the dunmer gave them, the argonians attacked their good friends when sul destroyed most of their land. Very sneaky lizards
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:03 am

didnt morrowind have a volcanic eruption and get taken over by argonians or some wierd crap like that?
The eruption destroyed some of Vvardenfell not all of it.
The Argonians came in and destroyed some cities they did not ravage the lands, the Argonians would have went back to their lands.

Why not a return to Morrowind the only parts of their we went to was Vvardenfell Island and Solstheim Island.
People seem to forget that in the game Morrowind we never went to the mainland except in Tribunal and with that expansion we just got to explore the city. I want to explore the entire mainland and I am curious how Dunmer culture had changed it seems much has changed for them these past few centuries.

The great houses fell. They are moving away from their ancient ancestor worship. Slavery was.outlawed in Morrowind. Then the water around Vvardenfell became the scathing bay. I am curious now how these modern day Dunmer are and how they act after the Red Year.

It would be interesting.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:33 am

I don't get, do you not want it as a dlc or a game? I would love to go in Morrowind and Cyrodill. And what used to ne Morrowind is now Argonia, yes they control it now. It would be badass to go there.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:30 pm

I don't get, do you not want it as a dlc or a game? I would love to go in Morrowind and Cyrodill. And what used to ne Morrowind is now Argonia, yes they control it now. It would be badass to go there.

The Argonians don't control Morrowind, Morrowind is still a province of the Empire... Morrowind suffered a lot, but does seem to be rebuilding from the sources we see in the game.

Anyway I love Morrowind, but there is no point in going back there (yet). Let's see the rest of the world first. Morrowind can wait.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:44 pm

I don't get, do you not want it as a dlc or a game? I would love to go in Morrowind and Cyrodill. And what used to ne Morrowind is now Argonia, yes they control it now. It would be badass to go there.
No Morrowind is still Morrowind. The Argonians did not conquer the nation the got revenge for being out into slavery and then they retreated to their homeland. Although they did establish some settlements in the border of Morrowind but who knows if any Argonians are still there.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:32 pm

No I think we should go to Morrowind and Cyrodill, cuz its unlikely that bethesda will make another game set in those areas, this is our only chance to see them. leave the other provinces to the next games
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:12 pm

No I think we should go to Morrowind and Cyrodill, cuz its unlikely that bethesda will make another game set in those areas, this is our only chance to see them. leave the other provinces to the next games
New games should definitely take place in other provinces.
We might get to go to province previously visited. Remember that Arena covered the whole continent.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:52 am

New games should definitely take place in other provinces.
We might get to go to province previously visited. Remember that Arena covered the whole continent.

Parts of it, none of it deep. I don't see how Arena is really relevant in this discussion.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:22 am

An entire province is not doable in an expansion but, as explained in another thread, something like west Morrowind ( https://images.nonexiste.net/popular/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/DLC-Hopes-and-dreams-BLACKLIGHT.jpeg ) or Orsinium (located between high rock, Hammerfell and Skyrim) seems okay for an expansion: we'll visit new lands without having to introduce a 'deux-ex machina' island like Solstheim.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:49 am



Parts of it, none of it deep. I don't see how Arena is really relevant in this discussion.
What about new areas, I would prefer new areas to visit. We have already been to the other areas it would be better to see those worlds realized again in a brand new game where things have changed in that world.

Reread what I said Arena takes place on the entire continent in that game you could go to any province you might be able to go to a province we have already been to. Understand now?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:49 pm

I really think Orsinium is doable. Sort of like The Pitt, only for Skyrim.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:01 pm

An entire province is not doable in an expansion but, as explained in another thread, something like west Morrowind ( https://images.nonexiste.net/popular/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/DLC-Hopes-and-dreams-BLACKLIGHT.jpeg ) or Orsinium (located between high rock, Hammerfell and Skyrim) seems okay for an expansion: we'll visit new lands without having to introduce a 'deux-ex machina' island like Solstheim.

The problems with adding even a little part of Morrowind are many, how are you going to explain the border? What happened to the great houses? what happened to the Temple? Can you still join them? What is the legion presence? How are the Daedra being worshipped now? How are the nine doing? Or is it the eight? Who is the King? Is there still a King? Have they returned to Dukes? Is there an Imperial governor? What Houses are still around? Can you join those houses? How about the College of Whisperers or the Synod? Do they have a presence? Any NPC's from Morrowind (the game) still in that area?

The events that happened in the last 200 years have the potential of completely redefining Morrowinds Culture, command structure and everything that goes with it. This is not something you just add in a little expansion, this would be an entire new game or hugely disapointing. I don't want to see Morrowind rushed like that.


What about new areas, I would prefer new areas to visit. We have already been to the other areas it would be better to see those worlds realized again in a brand new game where things have changed in that world.

Reread what I said Arena takes place on the entire continent in that game you could go to any province you might be able to go to a province we have already been to. Understand now?

I understood, I just think it's a weak argument. Arena is a completely different game from every installment that came after. It's unfair to really compare anything that happened in there to more recent games.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:40 pm



The problems with adding even a little part of Morrowind are many, how are you going to explain the border? What happened to the great houses? what happened to the Temple? Can you still join them? What is the legion presence? How are the Daedra being worshipped now? How are the nine doing? Or is it the eight? Who is the King? Is there still a King? Have they returned to Dukes? Is there an Imperial governor? What Houses are still around? Can you join those houses? How about the College of Whisperers or the Synod? Do they have a presence? Any NPC's from Morrowind (the game) still in that area?

The events that happened in the last 200 years have the potential of completely redefining Morrowinds Culture, command structure and everything that goes with it. This is not something you just add in a little expansion, this would be an entire new game or hugely disapointing. I don't want to see Morrowind rushed like that.
It would get very deep and it certainly would be better for a different game, one based in mainland Morrowind.
I know the great houses are gone they all crumbled.

The Dunmer have been adapting to change and they are moving away from their ancient traditions, and slowly becoming more modernized if you will. They have stopped leaning so heavy on their ancestor worship.

Pretty sure I've also read that the Dunmer have largely been returning back to Daedra worship since the fall of the Tribunal.

All of this gets very complex and it would be best suited for another game. Morrowind had a very complex political set up for sure.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:54 pm


I understood, I just think it's a weak argument. Arena is a completely different game from every installment that came after. It's unfair to really compare anything that happened in there to more recent games.
It's not an argument its a thought. It's possible and its something you most certainly could never rule out. Why because of constant change within a huge landscape it would not be something to completely cast aside the change might take us back to a previously visited province. Which would be fine with me I would not mind seeing how the areas have evolved since even tho I think it would be interesting to see new locales.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:59 am

Yeah, i'd rather go somewhere new.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:26 pm

I don't get, do you not want it as a dlc or a game? I would love to go in Morrowind and Cyrodill. And what used to ne Morrowind is now Argonia, yes they control it now. It would be badass to go there.
The Argonians don't control Morrowind. After the eruption of Red Mountain the Argonians attack was one of revenge, not conquest. They simply rushed in, slaughtered every Dunmer in sight and went back to their own lands. The only area of Morrowind their conquered was in the south which had been part of Black Marsh orginally but was taken over by the Dunmer.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:29 pm

The problems with adding even a little part of Morrowind are many, how are you going to explain the border? What happened to the great houses? what happened to the Temple? Can you still join them? What is the legion presence? How are the Daedra being worshipped now? How are the nine doing? Or is it the eight? Who is the King? Is there still a King? Have they returned to Dukes? Is there an Imperial governor? What Houses are still around? Can you join those houses? How about the College of Whisperers or the Synod? Do they have a presence? Any NPC's from Morrowind (the game) still in that area?

The events that happened in the last 200 years have the potential of completely redefining Morrowinds Culture, command structure and everything that goes with it. This is not something you just add in a little expansion, this would be an entire new game or hugely disapointing. I don't want to see Morrowind rushed like that.
West Morrowind is geographically isolated from the rest of the province: Jerral mountains south, sea east and north, Skyrim west. TWO paveds roads are already in the game (one east of Riften, one east of Windhelm) and now there's an artificial limitation that prevents you to go there. So everything is more or less in place already.

We know a great deal of the story from the books (like it or not, they're part of the lore) so no need to bring any new explanation. The area is pretty small with one big city, Blacklight, and possibly a couple of smaller settlements. Plenty of story hooks (the red year, the conflict with Argonians, the falling empire) to create a new line of quests and maybe we get to see some oldies (cliffraces, an old God who lost immortality and he's slowly aging like all elves, the remnants of Dunmer great houses, etc...)
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:41 pm

West Morrowind is geographically isolated from the rest of the province: Jerral mountains south, sea east and north, Skyrim west. TWO paveds roads are already in the game (one east of Riften, one east of Windhelm) and now there's an artificial limitation that prevents you to go there. So everything is more or less in place already.

We know a great deal of the story from the books (like it or not, they're part of the lore) so no need to bring any new explanation. The area is pretty small with one big city, Blacklight, and possibly a couple of smaller settlements. Plenty of story hooks (the red year, the conflict with Argonians, the falling empire) to create a new line of quests and maybe we get to see some oldies (cliffraces, an old God who lost immortality and he's slowly aging like all elves, the remnants of Dunmer great houses, etc...)

Vivec isn't dying, he's still a god like he always was. Kinda difficult here, but true none the less. The rest of what you just said raises questions. Blacklight is and has pretty much always been a mayor Redoran city. One of the great houses already in decline during the events of Morrowind, now is Blacklight still a Redoran city? The Redorans have always been a rather proud people they would not just throw away their house or traditions that easily, at least you wouldn't think so. But they might have done so all the same, who is to say. Cliffracers have been driven from Morrowind by St. Jiub by the way so they won't be there either.

I personally love Morrowind, but if we are to return there I want to see it done justice and I just don't see how that could be done in a relatively small expansion.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:48 pm

Cyrodiil, no thanks I was expecting rainforests, I just didn't "feel" it. Maybe if I didn't know about the Lore it would have been better but so many things not implemented.

Morrowind no thanks, it will be sad to see how it devolved after the eruption. I really loved the game but the setting is no longer there. Maybe in a few ages it will be nice to visit again but now it's basically just the ash-heap of what we've already seen. It would be far more interesting in a full game and after it's a real province again with big cities etc.

I would really like to see Summerset Isles, Valenwood or Elsweyr next. With Skyrim's visuals I know they can pull it off graphics-wise at the very least. Some breathtaking vistas, crystal structures, endless dunes...*dreams on*
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:15 pm

Vivec isn't dying, he's still a god like he always was.
Forgive me if I'm mistaken but
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weren't his powers taken away after the heart was destroyed?
and didn't he disappear during the Oblivion Crisis?
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