Daedric Armor is better than Dragon armor?

Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:33 am

This really isnt a huge deal, i just find it very odd that dragon armor, which requires 100 smithing to create, isn't better than daedric which requires 90 smithing. Both look pretty bad-ass expecially when you have one set and your follower has the other. But i would think armor made from [censored] dragons would be the highest lvl armor when thats what the game is based around. Also why there are no weapons that can be made from i also dont understand.
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Jason Rice
 
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:47 am

What I want to know is why Daedric doesn't offer light armor? It always have to be heavy. I do like the weapons thought.

Sorry to say but I rather stick with my dragon armor instead. I can run a lot farther with light armor.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:44 am

Daedric is harder to make. Also, looking at the trees, the best light armor is Dragonscale, and it takes 5 perk points to reach from the light side, while Daedric has the highest armor rating, and also takes 5 perk points to reach.

And, technically speaking, Dragonbone is better, considering you reach the armor cap with both Daedric and Dragonbone at Legendary, and Dragonbone weighs several units less. Not to mention the difference in armor is minuscule, at best.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:22 pm

Dragon heavy armor is lighter than daedric.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:04 am

I prefer Dragonplate armour to Daedric armour. I know Daedric is better but Dragonplate is much cooler.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:50 am

The materials required for Daedric make it a real pain to make, whereas you can use basic materials and all those dragon materials to create Dragon stuff.

One's clearly meant for light armor and the other for heavy. One is harder to acquire materials for and the other takes more perk points.

Pretty balanced, and the Dragonplate isn't much weaker than Daedric... but for the purist in all of us, most of us go straight to Daedric.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:33 pm

So making dragon wear isn't a pain to get? Mind you have to kill a dragon to collect it's bones and scales.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:41 am

How many dragons do you come across?

How many daedra?

'nuff said
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:34 pm

You all know that there's a cap on armor, so that you can make pretty much any style of armor as effective as any other... even Steel can hit the cap. They did this so that people could wear the armor they felt like wearing, rather than have to sacrifice for the one and only best of the best.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:37 am

WOW REALLY?? never heard that before!!
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:19 am

How many dragons do you come across?

How many daedra?

'nuff said


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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:47 am

WOW REALLY?? never heard that before!!

The cap is 587, 80% damage reduction.

Which can be reached with Dragonbone and Daedric at Legendary.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:55 pm

Dragon heavy armor is lighter than daedric.

Truth. PLUS, it IS easier to create compared to Daedric (seeing as you have to find Daedra Hearts). Why not just bump your smithing +10 more and make Dragonbone? Easier to make and access IMHO. And the extra little points of defense aren't worth it in the long run honestly.

Hell, I'm basically running around in full Ebony Armor and not having a problem. Daedric does look BA though..
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:05 am

Daedric armor is more difficult to make as Daedra hearts are very rare in this game, so I am thinking that is why it is not as powerful, I just choose what my character would want to wear based on what they like the best.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:48 pm

Both are incredibly easy to make so Daedric over Dragon armor.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:06 pm

How many dragons do you come across?

How many daedra?

'nuff said

Actually I am finding it difficult to come across dragons. Some dragons just fly away when it gets severely wounded. Not sure if its a spoiler or not but I know of a certain location where I can go to every few days in the game time where I can come across 4 daedra's. It's actually easy finding daedra then dragons.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:34 am

The weight of Daedric armour and dragon armour is questionable. There is a perk that allows heavy armour to be weightless and doesn't reduce speed. Also I don't look at what armour is 'pretty' or looks better which is a judgement that a few people may make. I look at armour rating of which Daedric armour is stronger, but slightly. I use Daedric armour. But back to the subject at hand, yes, Daedric armour is better. You have to think first though, Daedra are gods (or princes) and dragons are just simply very powerful creatures.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:45 am

While harvesting Daedra hearts is more of a task than collecting Dragon materials, you can just as easily buy the things at a few different alchemy vendors, and from a certain gentleman at Winterhold. I understand about the armor cap, and how that pretty much renders such complaints of armor values pointless, but it does seem somewhat stupid to have it setup the way that it is. Unlocking a perk at 100 implies (after a fashion) that it is the "best" perk in that tree, and that is simply not the case with Dragon (heavy) armor.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:36 pm

DAEDRIC ARMOR IS NOT BETTER.

If you can make Dragon Armor, you can improve it to Legendary, which goes beyond the armor cap. It weighs less that Daedric armor, which takes up less Carrying Capacity. DRAGON ARMOR IS THEREFORE BETTER.

Edit: And, looking at the tree, you see why Daedric has slightly higher armor rating (around 4 more points). It takes 4 points to reach Dragon from the Light side, and it's the best Light Armor. It takes 4 to reach Daedric from the Heavy side.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:29 am

roflmao @ Daedra are easier to find than dragons.

PLUS

Its not guaranteed to find hearts in Alchemy shops, and the Windhelm vendor requires a quest to complete... and he only has a couple. Mehrune is the only viable option in my opinion, but still requires a quest.

The loops you have to through just to get hearts makes Daedric the hardest to create.

Dragons...are...easier.

Is one better than the other?

Daedric is better for heavy armor guys, dragonscale is for the light armor guys.

Dragonplate? Always took less damage from Daedric plus it just looks more badass.

c'est la vie, the difference is not that big between the two.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:23 am

What I want to know is why Daedric doesn't offer light armor? It always have to be heavy. I do like the weapons thought.

Sorry to say but I rather stick with my dragon armor instead. I can run a lot farther with light armor.

I think a light version of daedric would be neat. Like Daedric chainmail or something.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:23 pm

Well it looks like to me is you need ot define better. As pointed out you can take any armor to the cap (I have seen 587 bandied about but I have looked at my AC in apparel and seen it listed as 601) so stat wise they are all the same once improved to the cap. If you go by weight it has been pointed out that there is a perk that makes heavy armour have no encumbrance, of course I think that is around the skill level of 90. I find that the skill if raised with no training is very slow and often find myself standing around letting low level stuff beat on me to get it raised. Since it is likely that you will hit the high level smithing before you hit the high level heavy armour perks weight is in fact a factor for a good portion of a warroirs life.

Next was the ease of finding material. For most of my charaters finding dragon bones and scales have not been a problem. Where as I have found few deadra hearts (I actually blew one early on a 10 point healing potion before I knew of other uses for them. Which I found in a book). So from that stand point dragon armor is easier to make particularly since the ten point difference is so eaasy to get to. Of course as others pointed out they found a source of daedra so that would make it on equal footing. But I would say a good majority don't know of this source, thanks for not sharing.

The last was the appearance. I think both Daedric and Dragon armour look cool in fact I have not seen any armour that I haven't found visibly appealing. Right now asthetically for me it is a toss up between Orcish and Ebony. I wish the Ebony helm had some kind of flair, horns preferrable but it still has a certain look to it.

So what is best? Don't know friend tell me?
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:57 am

roflmao @ Daedra are easier to find than dragons.
Never said it was easier, was just pointing out that it isn't as hard as people are making it sound, unless of course you feel the need to find "live" hearts.
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