theres a new tab in smithing that says misc i can make a shellbug helm out of it will other stuff ever show up in it im lvl 100 smithing?
and a bit off topic whats everyones thoughts on the armored ice troll follower haha

The only misc. Item is the shell bug helm. Have you found a shell bug yet because it took us beta testers a while to find one.

no i dont think i have seen one unless i over looked one

Hmm the misc meny isent new, if im not mistaken the meny and some items show up in it after completing the companions quest line even without dawnguard. But yea the helmet is new.

They are in some of the caves in the forgotten vale. They're really big but the aren't hostile. And you mine them

after completing the companions you can make anchint nord armor but only at the skyforge and its under the dadric tap. Also ive heard u can make exsplosive crassbow bolts after you go so far into dawnguard quest line can you?

Yes and they are awesome

Another question; i know the Shellbugs are in the FV but are they before or after the Inner Sanctum?
I've just entered the sanctum and im worried that if i go any further i wont return to the Vale

You can return at any time via quicktravel.

I've found two; the easiest one to get is in a cave that is near the place where you first enter the Vale.

WTF?!??! how do you make explosive crossbow bolts? do you have to side with the dawnguard?

Cant find any caves near there are they with Falmer?

yes you do side quests for sorine in fort dawnguard and she will sell them and unlock the ability for you to forge them

is there any use for the shellbug helm other then having a bug on your head?

There is one Falmer outside of the cave if I remember correctly. If you go right of the first shrine site you come across in the vale you should find it.

got it! thanks

Where do you find shellbugs?

No one mentions if the shellbug helm, heavy, qualifies as a helm for the hardened falmer or heavy falmer set.

OH, made it It does count as the heavy falmer set (as far as the matching set armor bonus.)
So in heavy falmer I was 1150 and with the shellbug helm, instead of heavy helm, 1155. Its kind
of a smoother look, rather than having the spikey mandibles or whatever sticking out from the heavy helm.

What I mean is:

Hardened and heavy are separate sets, with the "matching set perk" working for either set but NOT for interchanged pieces.

So I'm wondering if the shellbug helm qualifies for either set, since I had a set of hardened before I completed a set of the
heavy falmer. With the set, your ac is noticeably higher than with non set pieces (the ac of each piece is higher, if they are
a matching set, apart from the already existing "4 pieces of heavy armor" that is another perk.)

I'm 1150 in Heavy falmer with a falmer shield, while I was 900 and something in hardened falmer with a shield. Yeah,
I know its way over the cap anyway but I like the "matching set" bonus just for added giggles. So i'm wonder if
the shellbug gives that for either set, or would lose that bonus for both?

If its not part of the sets, I might make it anyway just to have it setting on a mantle or something.