Devs or Modders - ovens = campfires.(PLEASE?)

Post » Tue May 17, 2011 7:53 am

Hi, I just would like to be able to craft items - ie - meds, food, etc. at any oven.
I hate havingt to search for campfires. Or, how about the ability to make campfires and use sleeping bags for outdoor sleeping.
If I was travelling around a world like the wasteland, I'd most certainly be carrying a sleepling bag.
Just a few thoughts.
Thanks for listening
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:46 pm

At any oven wouldn't work.

Despite popular belief, Ovens are not magical boxes. They require some sort of energy, such as electricity or gas to operate. I'm not aware of any Gas infrastructure ever being mentioned in game, so I think its safe to assume that Gas is unusable (this would then presumably rule out any oven you've ever found a pilot light in), Gas facilities would be a logical target for the enemy and noncombustable gas isn't any use in the kitchen. If a house isn't linked to the remains of the electric grid, that oven isn't going to work either.

That said, when you have an oven in something like the Novac Hotel, or the Lucky 38, its plausable that an oven there could work (presuming its electric).
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:02 am

Hi, I just would like to be able to craft items - ie - meds, food, etc. at any oven.
I hate havingt to search for campfires. Or, how about the ability to make campfires and use sleeping bags for outdoor sleeping.
If I was travelling around a world like the wasteland, I'd most certainly be carrying a sleepling bag.
Just a few thoughts.
Thanks for listening

What if you were sleeping in your little (or big) colored sleeping bag (I estimate the color is champagne colored) and a gecko (golden) comes up to you and kills you in your sleep, what will you do then? Sleeping in the Mojave is dangerous, you know? I do not know how Wastelanders surivive the night!
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:04 pm

What if you were sleeping in your little (or big) colored sleeping bag (I estimate the color is champagne colored) and a gecko (golden) comes up to you and kills you in your sleep, what will you do then? Sleeping in the Mojave is dangerous, you know? I do not know how Wastelanders surivive the night!

You do spend a night in the wilderness if you complete Boone's quest.
You do it by splitting the night into watches, and have someone stay awake - not suitable for the solo traveller though.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 9:36 am

At any oven wouldn't work.

Despite popular belief, Ovens are not magical boxes. They require some sort of energy, such as electricity or gas to operate. I'm not aware of any Gas infrastructure ever being mentioned in game, so I think its safe to assume that Gas is unusable (this would then presumably rule out any oven you've ever found a pilot light in), Gas facilities would be a logical target for the enemy and noncombustable gas isn't any use in the kitchen. If a house isn't linked to the remains of the electric grid, that oven isn't going to work either.

That said, when you have an oven in something like the Novac Hotel, or the Lucky 38, its plausable that an oven there could work (presuming its electric).


It wouldn't make sense for a gas stove to work but a working electric stove in the more established areaswould be plausible.

Or perhaps a methane-powered stove! One that you retrieve the gas from Brahmin farts!
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:22 am

Or perhaps a methane-powered stove! One that you retrieve the gas from Brahmin farts!

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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:27 am

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I see a new Survival Recepie - Brahmin + Surgical Subing + Pilot Light...
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:52 pm

I see a new Survival Recepie - Brahmin + Surgical Subing + Pilot Light...


No more like: Brahmin + Surgical Tubing + Duct Tape + Drained Flamer Fuel Tank
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:23 am

I just added the campfire script to the pristine oven model; works perfectly for me :)
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 7:03 am

No more like: Brahmin + Surgical Tubing + Duct Tape + Drained Flamer Fuel Tank

I'm skipping the tank and going straight to the source.... Fire Brahmin. Forget Battle Cattle, Tabatha's got a new nightmare.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:35 pm

At any oven wouldn't work.

Despite popular belief, Ovens are not magical boxes. They require some sort of energy, such as electricity or gas to operate. I'm not aware of any Gas infrastructure ever being mentioned in game, so I think its safe to assume that Gas is unusable (this would then presumably rule out any oven you've ever found a pilot light in), Gas facilities would be a logical target for the enemy and noncombustable gas isn't any use in the kitchen. If a house isn't linked to the remains of the electric grid, that oven isn't going to work either.

That said, when you have an oven in something like the Novac Hotel, or the Lucky 38, its plausable that an oven there could work (presuming its electric).



You also forget the fact that all the fossil fuel has been used up, cuz you know that was the whole reason the great war was fought. :P
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:04 pm

I'm skipping the tank and going straight to the source.... Fire Brahmin.


Brahmin + Surgical Subing + Pilot Light = 30 Brahmin Steak (already cooked, courtesy of the explosion)

Forget Battle Cattle, Tabatha's got a new nightmare.


Brahmin + 6 Dynamite + Egg Timer + Scrap Electronics + gloves that go up to the shoulder.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:33 pm

You also forget the fact that all the fossil fuel has been used up, cuz you know that was the whole reason the great war was fought. :P

The cause of the great war was the exaustion of oil, although a trickle continued thanks to the US's contraversial Pacific drill. There's no official word on the status of Coal, or Natural gas.

Given that Gas is important for cooking and Heating in some areas, I'd imagine a synthetic substitute would be a very high priority.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:07 am

The cause of the great war was the exaustion of oil, although a trickle continued thanks to the US's contraversial Pacific drill. There's no official word on the status of Coal, or Natural gas.

Given that Gas is important for cooking and Heating in some areas, I'd imagine a synthetic substitute would be a very high priority.

IIRC Natural gas is a byproduct found mostly as bleed off of oil wells.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 9:48 am

http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35334 does this perfectly. ;)
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 7:40 am

You also forget the fact that all the fossil fuel has been used up, cuz you know that was the whole reason the great war was fought. :P


You can't have a war over a resource that is no longer available though, so it would seem reasonable to assume that not ALL fossil fuels were used up, just that they were close to it and the war was fought for control of the remaining reserves.

But regardless, if there was no natural gas to use, I doubt people would have been using gas ovens before the war either, after all, gas ovens aren't much use without gas to use in them. So it would seem most reasonable to assume that either the ovens in the game are electric, or there was, at the time of the war, some form of fuel available for them to burn, whether fossil fuels or a synthetic substitute. A possibility which would seem to be supported by the occassional gas leak one can find in the game. But regardless, gas ovens still wouldn't be able to do anything unless they actually had access to said fuel, which would seem unlikely in buildings that have not been inhabited for over 200 years. But in the case of ovens in places like the Strip that already have access to electricity, it would seem reasonable to assume that they are still functional, especially since people in those places probably wouldn't leave them there to take up space if they didn't work.

But regardless, there already have been mods which include usable ovens, whether making all ovens function like camp fires or just specific ones. I doubt that the developers would include this in an update as those are generally to fix bugs, occassionally, they might adress aspects that weren't really designed so well, like fixing balance issues, as is the case with the changes to energy weapons in the latest patch ((I'm not really sure if the change actually did enough to fix the problem or not, though, but that's beside the point.) I'd say that ovens not being actually used for cooking, but just functioning as containers, is the way the developers intended it.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:48 pm

At any oven wouldn't work.

Despite popular belief, Ovens are not magical boxes. They require some sort of energy, such as electricity or gas to operate. I'm not aware of any Gas infrastructure ever being mentioned in game, so I think its safe to assume that Gas is unusable (this would then presumably rule out any oven you've ever found a pilot light in), Gas facilities would be a logical target for the enemy and noncombustable gas isn't any use in the kitchen. If a house isn't linked to the remains of the electric grid, that oven isn't going to work either.

That said, when you have an oven in something like the Novac Hotel, or the Lucky 38, its plausable that an oven there could work (presuming its electric).


He also stated that it would be convienet to be able to make a campfire anywhere in the wastes. Which, with the proper materials, is perfectly reasonable. And as a matter of fact, iv never been on a camping trip where i couldnt make a campfire with things i find on the ground and a flint. So the only thing the PC would need to carry is a flint around.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 6:34 am

Ovens can use flamer fuel for gas or fusion batteries for electricity and for the person that said you would be attacked at night by using a sleeping bag there are beds laying on the ground outside that you can use and don't get attacked when you are using those. But yea you shouldn't be able to use just any oven as a campfire but definitely you should be able to use any that are in a legit home.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 10:44 am

Ovens can use flamer fuel for gas


Camp stoves maybe...good luck with firing a natural-gas stove with napalm. Unless the goal is to end up with no hair on you whatsoever at optimistic best. :shrug:
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:40 am

Camp stoves maybe...good luck with firing a natural-gas stove with napalm. Unless the goal is to end up with no hair on you whatsoever at optimistic best. :shrug:

Except the flamer doesn't use napalm. The distinct lack of any liquidy streams of molten piss kinda rule that out.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 7:06 am

At any oven wouldn't work.

Despite popular belief, Ovens are not magical boxes. They require some sort of energy, such as electricity or gas to operate. I'm not aware of any Gas infrastructure ever being mentioned in game, so I think its safe to assume that Gas is unusable (this would then presumably rule out any oven you've ever found a pilot light in), Gas facilities would be a logical target for the enemy and noncombustable gas isn't any use in the kitchen. If a house isn't linked to the remains of the electric grid, that oven isn't going to work either.

That said, when you have an oven in something like the Novac Hotel, or the Lucky 38, its plausable that an oven there could work (presuming its electric).


Ovens seems to be working - gas as most have "pilot lights" (which look kinda like a light bulb, but whatever), and many ovens have cooked food inside
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:26 am

http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35334 does this perfectly. ;)

As I scrolled down the thread I was wondering how long it would take for someone to link to it. :D


BTW some ovens are set up as furniture objects with a pan glued onto it which NPCs can move a spoon around in, as if they're cooking something. http://newvegasnexus.com/imageshare/images/57416-1290275173.jpeg
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:44 am

Gas is over rate in an era that uses nuclear energy to run everything. As for electric that what fission batteries and (energy weapon) cells are for, ever notice that 1 is attached to almost every street light...?

I thought that it was dumb to make it so only campfires worked - and it was even more dumb to not be able to carry a sleeping bag.

There is a mod out if your on the pc that lets you carry a "portable campfire, sleeping bad, lots of other stuff and a backpack (that acts like a container)". there's also refillable bottles. you dont even need NVSE for that stuff, should have been in the game to start with imo.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 7:43 am

Okay cool someone linked to that mod of yours, povuholo. I was about to.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:08 am

energy source = fusion generator

There's one in the sky diving shack.

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