Kinda stuck on this decision, but I'm not exactly sure if I should join them or not. The Forsworn seem to be brutal people, but that's because of their buring hatred for the Nords (My Character is a Nord btw.). I feet sorry for the prisonier who's daughter defended him but was executed right in front of him which also pointed out that this occured to many of the Forsworn people, but does that justify the murder they cause? If I kill their leader it seems I'm just part of the corruption in Markarth because I was framed by the city guard and that Silver-Blood guy.

Madanach was a means to an end for me. He gets me out of jail and they killed a few corrupt guards, so it's 2 for 2 LOL I will still kill Forsworn when I see them though! hehe

Me to he helped me getting out of the mine.
The forsworn attack me on sight and I respond the same way.

I did the city quest before running into any of them so then I found one of their camps I walked in believing them to be neutral or friendly and did not last long.

I didn't know you could join the Forsworn. They always attack me on sight anyway, never give me a chance. Screw 'em is what I say.

The faction is still against you, but you can fight with them at one point.

I think the justification behind you not being able to officially JOIN them, is that once the King gets back out of the city, it will take him time to reunify the clans, that time he is out unifying, he can't tell everyone what a stand up guy you are.

No, I sided against them

The silver-bloods might be crooked bastards who've been using the forsworn through Madanach and have a penchant for false imprisonment, but the Forsworn themselves are utterly insane. Swearing to kill everything that's not a Forsworn (Even those who had no part in the conflict) in revenge for a war they already lost long ago.

Given a second chance the Forsworn would be responsible for the death of scores of innocent bystanders and civilians, that cannot be allowed to happen.




(Before anyone says "but the Forsworn lands were taken away unfairly!" - Consider this: EVERY country in the world exists on what was once someone elses land, most Notably the USA, who's predecessors took the land by force from the indigenous population and then in turn took the land by force from the British. If they were to swear to kill everyone who isn't of native American descent in revenge, I'd hope you would not support them - answering an attrocity in the distant past, with a new attrocity solves nothing - people should learn from the error of what they did, try make amends and move forward)

I did the quest with one of my earlier characters, but then I reloaded it because I wasn't happy about getting in trouble with the (albeit corrupt) law. I plan on possibly doing it soon though, and I might very well side with Madanach. Forgot to say it depends on my character though. If it's my main one it won't happen since I won't get involved to start with.

Ah. Good point. I probably wouldn't want to join them and they wouldn't want me anyway, considering I'm a Nord, thank the 9!

I tried to kill Madanach on one of my play throughs, but OMG I had to reload like 5 times. He whooped my butt good. So, I just shut up and followed him LOL

foresworn isn't a faction you can join... if you want to help Madenach escape you can do so and still not be a member of their rebellion.

This was the point where I (the player, not the character) reconsidered my rebellious attitude and thought about what sort of man Ulfric really is.


This is out of character knowledge. For your character it's choices (Kill a fellow prisoner because you're told to and then escape with a bunch of terrorists or kill the terrorist leader just for giggles) and then living with the consequences (The escaping terrorists go on a killing spree or you become the best buddy of the corrupt Silver blood family.)


"You are going to have to learn to think before you act, but never to regret your decisions, right or wrong. Otherwise, you will slowly begin to not make decisions at all.", Pug in Betrayal at Krondor.

i wait till level 30 or so do that quest and by then i can kill him easily with the frost storm spell and i just kill him as soon as i see him, then i take his note or eky to the secret tunnel and escape the mine pretty easily. but if you're not leveld up its a bit harder. if you kill him right away...its easy to get out of the mine.

You aren't joining the Forsworn really. You are just helping them escape. Once you escape, the Forsworn will still attack you at every spot you find except for one and one only. I sided with the Forsworn mainly because I wouldn't have been in jail if not for the currupt guards to begin with. Just like I didn't side with the Imperials in the Civil War after they were going to execute me at the beginning of the game.

Either way, it doesn't really matter what side you choose when escaping the prison. The only thing it affects is what you get as a reward. Side with the Forsworn and you get an entire enchanted Forsworn armor along with being able to go to one Forsworn camp without being attacked....... Side with the Nords and you get a cheezy ring from Thornor and that's it. Nothing else is affected.

Do the right thing: Wait until Madanach gives you a shiv to go stab Grisvar the Unlucky, then plant it in his wrinkled, evil backside. If it were possible to kill Thonar Silver-blood, I'd pay him back for all the murders he's caused too.

PS: The 'cheesy ring' is a fortify smithing item, convenient if you can't find any for sale. The Forsworn armour, on the other hand, is complete garbage.

One does not simply JOIN the Forsworn.

I Helped him escape. Though the forsworn are violent, and malicious in they're dealings they only want one thing... they're homeland, returned to them. They never said "were going to kill every nord in Skyrim". Just the ones that took they're homeland.

It would be like the chinese or Koreans invading my country. I'd be a pissed off dude, and I would Cut a bloody hole into it until it was returned to its people. For you see, in order to get what you want, in the Forsworns case there is no other option but to fight. Pacifisim WILL NOT get your homeland back.

I would have loved to actually join the forsworn as an actual faction, but that was not allowed in the game. Sure, after I helped him escape there was ONE cave where I found him again and they didn't attack me there. However, none of them had anything at all to say. I would have loved to have a nice little conversation with them and learned more about them, but sadly this wasn't possible.

I had absolutely no reservations about slaughtering the markarth guards that jailed me. If anything , it serves as an meaningful parallel to the thalmor trying to take over the nords' homeland.

I did that stupid quest because I thought it would get me the achievement for escaping from prison. It didn't. The only good thing about is that I get to carry a shiv now.

Total agree. So much potential in that faction.

It seems like the Forsworn have an Army. And Markarth has some guards, I don't think they would have much trouble taking it back.

The forsworn are purely insane and evil. They chill with hagravens, partake in un-willing human sacrifice rituals and some rip out their own hearts and replace it with a briar heart.

Markarth, unaltered has the support of the Imperial Legion. We all know the ammount of guards isn't a good, acurate depection of how many guards your would have in a city in real life. They're nameless, and faceless to give you the illusion that there are many guards.

Yes they are idiots with less political sense than mudcrabs, why atack any traveler? look at the orc strongholds for how to do thing. Had they been smart they would start some quite talk with the empire and/ or the Thalmor about their own province for helping fighting the stormcloaks, not a perfect solution but an realistic and decent deal.

i let madanach help me escape but i killed him and his forsworn followers on the way out of markarth.