Does anyone else just adore the Thalmor or am I the only one

Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:17 am

That might have something to do with the fact that every Thalmor agent you speak with in the game seems to ooze resentment for the very fact that you exist at all. The voice actors did a brilliant job with that, TBH.

http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv146/gmosko/thalmor.jpg

Ondolamar likes you if you turn in the Talos worshipper, no sarcasm or lip.
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:14 pm

I personally like them and find them really intriguing. They are great from a political standpoint, and the current situation with them injects much needed freshness after the stale bitter taste Oblivions non existent politics left us with. Now we have an interesting culture that we can learn more about, the Altmer whom the Thalmor now control and brought back the Aldmeri Dominion.
They are great from a research standpoint, not to mention the Altmer are my favored race.
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:19 pm

http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv146/gmosko/thalmor.jpg

Ondolamar likes you if you turn in the Talos worshipper, no sarcasm or lip.

Cool beans. I wish he could tell his buddies to stop running into my sword when I'm traveling between cities...
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:55 pm

Cool beans. I wish he could tell his buddies to stop running into my sword when I'm traveling between cities...

Odd, I've had them draw their swords and give me a warning, but never full on hostile. A Thalmor patrol (and their prisoner, lol) even helped me clear out the fort near Whiterun when one of the bandits outside spotted me and went hostile.
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:10 pm

My blade adores them.
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:53 pm

One part of the Thalmoor plan involves erasing the possibility of man.Wouldn't anyone who knows about man have to go as well.Including themselves.
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:13 am

Well, no I do not like the Thalmor. I always ignore them when I meet them on the roads. I just walk on by like they order me to. Those are the only meetings I have ever had with Thalmor at my early stage in the game. Well... until yesterday.

I bunch of Thalmor Justicatiers (spelling?) jumped me and attempted to bring about my assassination. Naturally I defended myself and left four Thalmors' blood mingling with the dirt. One had a contract note naming me as one tough Nord gal who must be eradicated. I guess that was some kind of random event to get me to hurry up and do the next part of the Main Quest which involves those nasty people. ... it was just like that contract a DB assassin had on me before I joined them.

No, If they don't like me, I definitely don't like them. Oh well ...
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:55 pm

I do not adore a group bent on destroying Mundus.
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:42 pm

I personally like them and find them really intriguing. They are great from a political standpoint, and the current situation with them injects much needed freshness after the stale bitter taste Oblivions non existent politics left us with. Now we have an interesting culture that we can learn more about, the Altmer whom the Thalmor now control and brought back the Aldmeri Dominion.
They are great from a research standpoint, not to mention the Altmer are my favored race.

My problem with the Thalmor is that they're cartoon evil in a game otherwise full of shades of gray. They lack any visible redeeming qualities and seem to act purely out of malice. Were I a quarter of century younger, I might consider it edgy and cool to go on about their greatness on the forum, but I guess my tastes demand a little more nuance from the baddies now to consider them interesting and/or cool.
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:14 pm

The Thalmor are basicly the Nazis of elderscrolls
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:29 am

My problem with the Thalmor is that they're cartoon evil in a game otherwise full of shades of gray. They lack any visible redeeming qualities and seem to act purely out of malice. Were I a quarter of century younger, I might consider it edgy and cool to go on about their greatness on the forum, but I guess my tastes demand a little more nuance from the baddies now to consider them interesting and/or cool.
It is a matter of opinion, we just not have seen any redeeming qualities. But these are extremest soldiers so do you really think that we would see any good qualities from a group that is sending out squads to murder people based on what they believe. Also they want a mass genocide that is their goal to reclaim their divinity, that might not be a noble goal for you but it is for them. Your dark perception of them is not how they see themselves. Anyways to see decent qualities we would have to probably be within their living areas.
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:37 am

The Thalmor are basicly the Nazis of elderscrolls
No, they're not.
I swear, people only seem to pick up on the racist side of the Thalmor and completely ignore the wanting-to-destroy-the-entire-world side of them. Dethroning Talos, killing humans, these are just steps to get to their endgame of unmaking the world and returning to godhood.
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:49 pm

No, they're not.
I swear, people only seem to pick up on the racist side of the Thalmor and completely ignore the wanting-to-destroy-the-entire-world side of them. Dethroning Talos, killing humans, these are just steps to get to their endgame of unmaking the world and returning to godhood.

That's of course, assuming all or even most Thalmor are as hard-line as the 'official' mission statement. You're looking at the raw meta-physics of it and taking for granted that it meshes perfectly with potential political and sociological realities of the Thalmor and the Aldmeri Dominion. If (or hopefully when) the Aldmeri Dominion become the next Empire, who's to say they would be so keen on blowing up the world? Sure you'd have a few hard-liners, like in any faction, who would still think it is a good idea but I bet most would be perfectly happy lording it over everyone... that is unless Beth hires MK back and we return to the bull-hooky cart where politics means little and obscure meta-physics are king.
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:36 am

My problem with the Thalmor is that they're cartoon evil in a game otherwise full of shades of gray. They lack any visible redeeming qualities ...
I don't know, but I hear from the snow trolls, that they taste quite acceptable when served with snowberries and juniper-flavored mead.

Still, I guess the thing is that we don't actually have any good description of their motivations from their own perspective, as we do for the Imperials and the Stormcloaks. Perhaps it might be possible to add a little gray in the picture with just a bit of effort to describe their motivations, but that is not included in the story. Is that omission due to neglect or a deliberate polarization, who knows.
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:31 pm

We need a Thalmor DLC! I love the high society Elves.
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:13 pm

That's of course, assuming all or even most Thalmor are as hard-line as the 'official' mission statement. You're looking at the raw meta-physics of it and taking for granted that it meshes perfectly with potential political and sociological realities of the Thalmor and the Aldmeri Dominion. If (or hopefully when) the Aldmeri Dominion become the next Empire, who's to say they would be so keen on blowing up the world? Sure you'd have a few hard-liners, like in any faction, who would still think it is a good idea but I bet most would be perfectly happy lording it over everyone...
I suppose that's possible...

that is unless Beth hires MK back and we return to the bull-hooky cart where politics means little and obscure meta-physics are king.
Sounds great to me! A group of fanatics who have gone out of their way to maintain their ideas of perfection throughout history and are looking to kill everything and everyone, including themselves, in order to unmake the world so they can return to godhood is a million times more interesting to me than...a tyrannical political group. Ugh.
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:55 pm

Sounds great to me! A group of fanatics who have gone out of their way to maintain their ideas of perfection throughout history and are looking to kill everything and everyone, including themselves, in order to unmake the world so they can return to godhood is a million times more interesting to me than...a tyrannical political group. Ugh.

I'd rather have the political group, they make sense thank you very much. Having a hardcoe group of fanatics like that is fine, but having them over-represented to the point that they call all the shots and control everything stretches credulity, it would be like claiming Al-Qaeda or some other extremist group controlled the entirety of the middle-east because a few nuts are in the habbit of blowing themselves up.

Going by your standard Beth should have just made the Stormcloaks an occupy Solitude movement with tents, 'we are the 99%' signs and all too, you know to keep things nice, simple and clean for you. After all one can always use more time to ponder the implications of whether Sovngarde is the remnants of Lorkhan's daedric realm or some pocket of Aethirius where the strongest souls manage to avoid the process of reincarnation, recycling and ultimately destruction (since there is no perfect reincarnation in TES, save perhaps the Nerevarine).
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:54 pm

Not a fan of the Thalmor myself. I might have one character who will support them eventually, but I haven't planned that out yet. The Altmer Spellsword I've planned will be a bitter enemy of the Thalmor, as they've hunted and killed his family and friends, as well as most of his comrades in arms during the Valenwood rebellions. I'm thinking about making a Bosmer as well who will also be anti-Thalmor, I'd consider trying a Thalmor supporter as an Altmer pure Mage eventually though.
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:51 pm

Likewise. Only met 10, 9 were butchered, with utter disgust.

What happened to the 10th? :P
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:17 pm

Considering most people react as if the Thalmor personally punched out their grandmother and ran over their dog when ever you so much as mention them, I think the haters have more issues than those who can appreciate an awesome faction for what it is and represents vis-a-vis a fictional game world and roleplaying... you know, just saying :dry:

Yes. What's NOT to love about facist racist imperialistic elves?
In other words: A country ruled by an iron fist, who believe their race is superior, and also believes they can improve the world by forcing their rule opon everyone.

You DO realize that the Thalmor are the SS, and that the Aldmeri Dominion is Nazi-Germany, yes?

Aldmeri Dominion: Lawful evil
The Empire: Lawful neutral
Stormcloaks: Chaotic good
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:49 pm

Don't like them, but I'll tolerate their presence as long as they leave me alone. The minute they start trying to kill me, game on.
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:39 pm

Yes. What's NOT to love about facist racist imperialistic elves?
In other words: A country ruled by an iron fist, who believe their race is superior, and also believes they can improve the world by forcing their rule opon everyone.

You DO realize that the Thalmor are the SS, and that the Aldmeri Dominion is Nazi-Germany, yes?

Aldmeri Dominion: Lawful evil
The Empire: Lawful neutral
Stormcloaks: Chaotic good

As a big fan of Lawful Evil in RPGs, I fail to see your point. Furthermore, you got the Stormcloaks' alignment off by a bit, given Ulfric pretty much intends to set up a totalitarian nords only club in Skyrim that could at best be described as neutral-something given the 'good' jarl's penchant for ignoring crimes against non-nords and tolerance of a rather xenophobic atmosphere in his own hold and that's before we get into the SS/Nazi comparisons.

But still thank you for proving my point; namely that a good chunk of Thalmor haters are overly-emotional and irrational people who will go out of their way to condemn them. Yet these same people in the same breath ignore the stormcloaks' own xenophobic and nationalistic tendencies because they're rebels and therefor the epitome of good :shifty:
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:49 pm

OP is just a Hipster. Too cool to be one of the established factions so he has to go for the bad guy. Too obvious, yet still cute in a way.

Right on the money, money :lol:
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:12 pm

I'm an altmer and I hate them, not really what the true high elves stand for. Look to the Psyjjic order to see what an actual high elf society stands for.
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Post » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:48 am

My character history pre Skyrim:

-Descendant of the Divine Crusader and Champion of Cyrodiil (A reembodiment of Saint Pelinal no less)

-Slaughtered the Thalmor at every turn in the Great War.

-Smashed the Thalmor interrogation keep in the Northwest

-Slew Ondolemar and his lackeys, and spat in Elenwin's face by kicking her out of the treaty negotiation

-Talos worshipper


In short, no, I do not like the Thalmor.
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