Dwemer and the Falmer

Post » Thu May 31, 2012 1:04 am

(Yes this is a bit long and if your too lazy to read, move along then).


I have spent hours and hours combing over Dwemer Ruins and I have noticed something. I have yet to stumble upon a journal from any Dwemer who lived in any of these abandoned cities.

Do any journals exist and I simply have not found them yet or did the Dwemer refuse to keep journals?

Secondly, I have noticed no graveyards. Where did the Dwemer bury their dead? Did they simply burn them or have another means?




On to the Falmer…


I find these “people” rather fascinating. Once a peaceful race, they were driven underground, tortured, poisoned and enslaved for centuries. Believe me I kill them but at the same time too I feel sorry for them. This got me thinking, they say the Falmer rely on the poison the Dwemer gave them, which comes from the underground mushrooms. I have seen Falmer have areas growing nothing but mushrooms, but it is not just one species of mushrooms but different species of mushrooms.


So it got me thinking, was the poison the Dwemer gave them different types of mushrooms or was it a certain kind of mushroom? I do not think it was the Glowing Mushroom since the Falmer does not seem to cultivate it as much as they do Namaria’s Rot and The Button Mushroom.


However, on occasion I will find a small bottle of poison in a Falmer’s inventory. This got me thinking, could this be the concoction, the Dwemer used to keep the Falmer subdued into submission or its purpose meant for combat? If it is the poison, I wonder why the Falmer have not built up a tolerance to any such poison.


I also am wondering the story behind the human slaves the Falmer have; such as if they view the Falmer as “gods” of some nature or have been subdued into submission with the same poison the Dwemer gave the Falmer.


If the Falmer were once Snow Elves, I am surprised to see no trace of this race. No journals, no, carvings, no artifacts to show these Elves did live underground. How can it be known they were driven underground with no proof they were? If there is, I would like to know where this proof is, hell for all we know the Falmer could be a different race entirely.


I noticed too within the Falmer race there is no females, well not obvious features females generally have. But I have noticed they have Shamans and usually a female has this role. Has time just warped the Falmer into such a twisted race that the difference between female and male Falmer has become unrecognizable?
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Racheal Robertson
 
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 12:01 am

I agree with all your points. I too wondered why there are no journals. However I'm surprised there aren't any snow elves left, not even a secret family of them living in a snow cave in isolation. On the female theory, I believe that the shaman is the only female and the rest of the males have to compete for mating. Obviously that's just guess work.
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 5:16 am

Go here to learn about the Dwemer: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dwemer
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 11:07 pm

The dwemer dissappered 3600 years ago. Journals tends to crumble over that many years. Still, there's a few dwemer books found in Morrowind, which was much more heavy on dwemer lore than Skyrim.

As for the falmer, their poisons probably comes from their pet chauruses and spiders (just like their armor and weapons are made from chaurus parts).
Their descent to savagery started in the first era. You might as well expect dinosaurs to walk around on the Earth because their distant cousins, birds, are still around.
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 2:18 am

The dwemer did keep journals - Kagrenac's were integral to completing Morrowind's main quest via the "backpath". It's simply unlikely that many of them survived the years since their disappearance.
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 7:43 am

Theres a HUGE statue of a snow elf in a dwemer ruin when you do the Thieves Guild quest
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 9:47 am

(Yes this is a bit long and if your too lazy to read, move along then).


I have spent hours and hours combing over Dwemer Ruins and I have noticed something. I have yet to stumble upon a journal from any Dwemer who lived in any of these abandoned cities.

Do any journals exist and I simply have not found them yet or did the Dwemer refuse to keep journals?
Have you not noticed the hundreds of "ruined books" in the Dwemer ruins? Those were probably made by the Dwemer. You can also find Dwemer books in Morrowind such as the Egg of Time and Divine Metaphysics. However, I doubt the Dwemer would keep any typical "journals" the way the other races do. They were probably too busy dividing by zero and being super-geniuses to bother with keeping journals with their opinions and feelings, moreso logs of their technological advances and metaphysics.

Secondly, I have noticed no graveyards. Where did the Dwemer bury their dead? Did they simply burn them or have another means?
They probably just disposed of their corpses somehow. Up until they all just vanished.

If the Falmer were once Snow Elves, I am surprised to see no trace of this race. No journals, no, carvings, no artifacts to show these Elves did live underground. How can it be known they were driven underground with no proof they were? If there is, I would like to know where this proof is, hell for all we know the Falmer could be a different race entirely.
As has been said, you can see a statue of a Snow Elf in Irkngthand. However, the Dwemer totally demolished that race. They wouldn't allow them to keep artifacts or journals.

I noticed too within the Falmer race there is no females, well not obvious features females generally have. But I have noticed they have Shamans and usually a female has this role. Has time just warped the Falmer into such a twisted race that the difference between female and male Falmer has become unrecognizable?
I'd imagine one of these two possibilities are most likely, either:
A. As you suggested, the noticeable differences between male and female Falmer have become almost unnoticeable, and you'll never be sure if you're looking at a male or female Falmer, or
B. What I think is most likely, the Falmer keep their women hidden and under very close protection in order to secure the survival of their race. The men go out and hunt, bring travelers to feed to the Chaurus, and to explore and scavenge the Dwemer ruins.
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