Dwemer disappearance - Answer

Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:50 am

I am glad to inform that the answer to the “Dwemer Disappearance " has been discovered.

In the Dwemer legends and stories the phrase “The calling " is repeated.

It is suggested that the Dwemer had some sort of silent and magical communication.

It is also said that the psijic order shares the same secret which would explain the disappearance of their Order and their sanctuary just like the Dwemer.

The historian Borgusilus malier proposed that this is the answer, solution to the “Dwemer Disappearance” and all the evidence supports his conclusion.

In the 1E 668 the dwemer enclaves were “called” referring to " The calling " together by their most powerful sorcerer " Kagrnak " to embark on a great journey one of such sublime profundity that they abandoned their lands and cities " Evidence of this is their ruins scatted across the landscape " to join the quest to foreign climes as an entire culture.

Hope this has helped

Dwemer Guardian.

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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:31 am

The real answer?

Dumb [censored]ers tripped the traps that covered 80 [censored] PERCENT OF THEIR [censored] CITIES. Then their robots Sky-net'd and killed the rest off.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:39 am

When I go through Dwemer dungeons with my companion Erik the Slayer he speculates that the Dwemer disappeared because their machines turned on them. I kind of like that explanation, for some reason.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:40 am

Thats not true...
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:50 am

The real answer?

Dumb [censored]ers tripped the traps that covered 80 [censored] PERCENT OF THEIR [censored] CITIES. Then their robots Sky-net'd and killed the rest off.
This . lol
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:41 am

thats what the evidense points to.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:40 am

When I go through Dwemer dungeons with my companion Erik the Slayer he speculates that the Dwemer disappeared because their machines turned on them. I kind of like that explanation, for some reason.

Ubiquitously sentient? Amongst three provinces? I doubt it.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:39 am

While the calling may have been a method to help Kagrenac synchronise his plans, when he struck the Heart the Dwemer were absorbed into Numidium.
It was the Dwemer's ideal to escape the Mundus, which they see as a prison. Their attempt to return to the time of infinire possibility was to make their entire race into a time-travelling god in the form of a big stompy robot.
The Thalmor have the same goal, but their means are very different. They intend to return to Anu by destroying the world.

P.S: Seeing as Dwemer coherers were a common find in Morrowind Dwemer dungeons, and because coherers are only used in radio technology, it could very well be that 'the calling' is nothing more than long-distance radio contact.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:33 am

We actually have a good idea what happened to them. Your explanation is not really on lore.

For some clues the Arriel Gane quest attempts to recreate the Dweemer 'experiment' with somewhat similar results.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:57 pm

It certainly seems as though the Dwemer of Skyrim love to booby-trap their own cities far more than the Swemer of Morrowind.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:46 am

I've always wanted to know the reason and the explanantion you gave seems intriguing. Thanks for sating my curiousity. :foodndrink:
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:34 am

Ubiquitously sentient? Amongst three provinces? I doubt it.
I believe it's four. The Dwemer appear to have built the same technology into cities on Vvardenfell and Skyrim (I haven't been to other provinces, but I assume it's the same there as well) so it's reasonable to assume that if something went wrong in one province it could go wrong in the others, too
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:15 am

I believe it's four. The Dwemer appear to have built the same technology into cities on Vvardenfell and Skyrim (I haven't been to other provinces, but I assume it's the same there as well) so it's reasonable to assume that if something went wrong in one province it could go wrong in the others, too

I dont think the Dwemer would build anything that has the power to usurp them, it doesnt fit their way of thinking.
Their entire endeavour was towards themselves achieving the divine. The constructs are tools. Janitors, guards and really not that complex. They are mindless robots remotely operated by a signal, so that their masters have time for more lofty things.
It would have to be their central system that had become malign, and it seems really uncharacteristic of the Dwemer to make the mistake of not properly programming asimotivators.

Furthermore, the events of Morrowind revealed that Kagrenac used the tools to absorb their entire race into Numidium. That was the plan, for the Dwemer to become its golden skin, the golden mean between the divine and the arcane.
The real question is, why did Kagrenac fail? Why did Numidium not activate?
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:00 am

No no no. They built a giant robot and went to warp factor 10. They're everywhere and nowhere.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:59 am

No no no. They built a giant robot and went to warp factor 10. They're everywhere and nowhere.

So they're Robo-Elf Jesus?
















Awesome.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:21 am

The OP's conclusion is nothing new, those who cared ( I for one) knew about this before Oblivion was a fart in the wind (LOL) we just didn't know where they went. I concluded personally in 03 that the Calling a Psychic link mentioned in a particular book in morrowind was part of the machination that linked all the Dwemer and took them away. I believe this was a sudden and abrubt process because King Dumac had no idea what Kagnerac and his followers where doing until it was to late.


Book in Skyrim suggest that the Dwemer may not have all disappeared at once.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:53 pm

This is what we know for sure (game lore):

Lorkhan either convinced or tricked some of the "gods" (Aedra) into creating the material plane, Mundus. During the creation, many of the involved gods backed out or fled, but 8 of them (Stendarr, Kynareth, etc.) continued, and Mundus was created.

Many of the gods were angry with Lorkhan, they killed** him, tore out his heart, and tossed it into Nirn (the world of Skyrim, Tamriel, etc.). The heart ended up buried deep in what would be known as Red Mountain.

Many elves, particularly the High Elves and Dwemer, believe the whole creation thing is a mistake, and want out (a return to a purely spiritual existence).

Thousands of years ago, the Dwemer living in Red Mountain discovered the heart of Lorkhan. The Chief Tonal Architect, Kagrenac, began experimenting on it. Kagrenac built Numidium based on some goals regarding the heart.

The Dwemer and Chimer (ancestors of the current Dunmer or Dark Elves) had been warring, but had gotten over their differences, thanks largely to King Nerevar of the Chimer, and King Dumac of the Dwemer. Nerevar found out that the Dwemer had discovered and were experimenting on the heart. Nerevar was troubled by this and consulted Azura, who told him to confront the Dwemer and insist that they stop. The Dwemer are offended by this. The Chimer and Dwemer go to war. Other races get involved.

In the midst of the confrontation between the big players (Nerevar, Dumac, Kagrenac, Dagoth Ur, etc.), Dumac is slain, Nerevar is injured, and Kagrenac strikes the heart of Lorkhan with his magical tools. The entire Dwemer race disappears.

The 3 advisors of Nerevar--Vivec, Almalexia (also Nerevar's wife), and Sotha Sil--murder Nerevar to take the heart for their own. Through the power of the heart, they (and Dagoth Ur), become gods. Azura curses the Chimer for the actions of the 3, changing them into the Dunmer. Vivec, Almalexia, and Sotha Sil become the Tribunal, the gods of a new Dunmer religion. Dagoth Ur begins his unending battle with the Tribunal over the heart.

**Values of death for a god are not the same as for a mortal, so he still makes occasional appearances despite being dead.

This is what is generally accepted as well:

Kagrenac used the Calling to summon the Dwemer, and they melded together into the skin of Numidium, attempting to become a giant, collective intelligence god-robot. Something apparently went wrong, possibly due to interference from Azura, possibly due to the rush or miscalculation.

Michael Kirkbride, one of the writers of Morrowind and Oblivion, has directly supported the above interpretation outside of the games.
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