[POLL] Falkreath shouldn't have it's own hold! : V

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:41 am

Falkreath is extremely small to be for having its own hold.

Per' se it shouldn't! It should be like Riverwood, as it is exactly like Riverwood but with a hold!

Should Falkreath have a hold or not? What do you think?

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:21 pm

But Falkreath is famous for its graveyard, which has all of 5 graves!

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:33 am

i have no idea why falkreath is so small, yet, is a hold.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:59 pm

But Falkreath is famous for its graveyard, which has all of 5 graves!

*ahem* it at LEAST has 25 graves, which if you've played the Civil War you'd know is more than enough to bury an army in!

And Meh, Dawnstar's hardly bigger, and Winterhold is tiny now (but didn't use to be) so I guess it can have its own hold. Odd that it only has (had) one settlement in it other than itself though

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:49 pm

Falkreath isn't at all smaller than Winterhold.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:40 pm

What about Winterhold, it's even worse.

The grand armies of Winterhold have... 3 soldiers.

The entire city has like 10 people in it!

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:31 am

Falkreath used to have Helgen. But then Ol' Alduin decided to raze the town in a attempt to kill the Doragonborn. You should able to tell why didn't work

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:59 pm

What about Winterhold, it's even worse.

The grand armies of Winterhold have... 3 soldiers.

The entire city has like 10 people in it!

I can somewhat understand Winterhold though. Falkreath is a Riverwood clone, and yet it has a hold and a Jarl?

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:13 am

none of the villages are big enough to warrent a hold

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:12 am

This isn't a Poll.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:12 am

What about Winterhold, it's even worse.

The grand armies of Winterhold have... 3 soldiers.

The entire city has like 10 people in it!

And yet the dragons seem to consider it the greatest threat, what with all the attacks on it!

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:50 pm

I can somewhat understand Winterhold though. Falkreath is a Riverwood clone, and yet it has a hold and a Jarl?

Riverwood has 6 houses.

Falkreath has 8-9 houses, if my memory serves correctly.

Riverwood has 0 soldiers (even if reinforced, 3-4 I believe)

Falkreath has too many soldiers to count. As well as a barracks and a jail.

Plus Falkreath also had Helgen part of its domain.

This thread is silly.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:19 pm

Falkreath used to have Helgen. But then Ol' Alduin decided to raze the town in a attempt to kill the Doragonborn. You should able to tell why didn't work

I have a sneaky suspicion that Helgen was the town with the Jarl's house and the prison but when Alduin brought it down they moved the Jarl and the prison to Falkreath. So it would make more sense if you lived in the Falkreath hold before Alduin attacked as the hold would have been much larger and its capitol would have been Helgen rather than Falkreath.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:01 am

It's got kind of an important history though. The king of Falkreath once conquered most of Cyrodiil and took the Imperial City. Then he was assassinated and his general, Talos, became emperor.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:41 pm

If Falkreath wasn't a hold, the entire chunk of land would have to be divided between Whiterun, the Rift and the Reach. They'd be disproportionately big. Falkreath is close to the border, in a very good place to have control over the southern part of Skyrim - its size is irrelevant. It's not smaller than Winterhold or Dawnstar, anyhow.

I don't have a problem with Falkreath being a hold capital; I just think the town should be bigger. All towns in Skyrim should.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:22 am

I have a sneaky suspicion that Helgen was the town with the Jarl's house and the prison but when Alduin brought it down they moved the Jarl and the prison to Falkreath. So it would make more sense if you lived in the Falkreath hold before Alduin attacked as the hold would have been much larger and its capitol would have been Helgen rather than Falkreath.

Except you can run over to Falkreath immediately after Helgen only an hour later... also, they've already switched Jarls once and it's implied the previous Jarl lived in Falkreath as well. Also, wouldn't it be called Helgen Hold?

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:51 pm

Well, Falkreath used to be part of Cyrodiil. Maybe Skyrim and Cyrodiil agreed to divide the area appropriatley. So maybe Falkreath Hold is acually twice as big as it is in the game.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:17 am

If Falkreath wasn't a hold, the entire chunk of land would have to be divided between Whiterun, the Rift and the Reach. They'd be disproportionately big. Falkreath is close to the border, in a very good place to have control over the southern part of Skyrim - its size is irrelevant. It's not smaller than Winterhold or Dawnstar, anyhow.

I don't have a problem with Falkreath being a hold capital; I just think the town should be bigger. All towns in Skyrim should.

Agreed. One thing though, why doesn't it have its own loading cell? For a city as important as Falk is, why doesn't it have walls surrounding it?

It is one of the most important lumber exports in Skyrim, especially for the Imperials.

On top of that, it is one of the most important roads that lead to Cyrodiil. Why have the Imperials not SUPER reinforced it. Whiterun is borderline Imperial/ Stormcloak, so why are the Legion taking any chances?

Reinforce Falk before stormcloaks turn Whiterun and march on Cyrodiil!

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:46 am

Except you can run over to Falkreath immediately after Helgen only an hour later... also, they've already switched Jarls once and it's implied the previous Jarl lived in Falkreath as well. Also, wouldn't it be called Helgen Hold?

No. If it should, then there should also be a Dawnstar Hold, Markarth Hold, Solitude Hold, Windhelm Hold, etc. A Hold doesn't have to be named after its capital.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:58 pm

Agreed. One thing though, why doesn't it have its own loading cell? For a city as important as Falk is, why doesn't it have walls surrounding it?

It is one of the most important lumber exports in Skyrim, especially for the Imperials.

On top of that, it is one of the most important roads that lead to Cyrodiil. Why have the Imperials not SUPER reinforced it. Whiterun is borderline Imperial/ Stormcloak, so why are the Legion taking any chances?

Reinforce Falk before stormcloaks turn Whiterun and march on Cyrodiil!

because that kind of depth was not wanted in this game

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:56 am

because that kind of depth was not wanted in this game

by who, Bethesda or the community?

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:16 pm

It really would be interesting to know why, out of all the nine holds, they chose the five that they did. And why they decided to pretty much ignore the remaining four.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:55 am

In England, the county of Suffolk has no cities (and is about the 8th largest out of 88)
The county of yorkshire has 5, Leeds Bradford York hull and Sheffield.

Should suffolk not be a county?

Pointless thread is pointless

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:30 pm

In England, the county of Suffolk has no cities.
The county of yorkshire has 5, Leeds Bradford York hull and Sheffield.

Should suffolk not be a county?

Pointless thread is pointless

hearing the opinions of others is what's gold not the thread itself

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:22 am

I don't get winterhold, sure it fell apart but that was 80 years ago.