[Dawn Porter]

Okay so http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1320924-fileplanet-just-taking-mods-and-ignoring-modders/page__fromsearch__1 was at post limit and locked and there has been a lot of progress since then which I need to inform you all about, at the request of FilePlanet.

You need to read a conversation that I have been having on a GameSpy article entitled http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/elder-scrolls-v/1215484c.html to understand what has occured. I am Dubious7.

If you have a file on FilePlanet that has been uploaded without your consent and you want it removed, email....

Jramos@IGN.com

...and ask for it to be removed. This is the correct email address to contact.

I know that many people are upset, however, for the sake of keeping the communication that we finally have with FilePlanet, and because you are representing the TES or Fallout community, please be polite in your email.

We are promised action and that is fantastic! Please post here to let us know that you have had a response and your file removed.

For ease of searching to see if your mod is there (disclaimer-these links take you to sites that are beyond Bethesda's control).....

http://www.fileplanet.com/118143/0/section/Mods
http://www.fileplanet.com/104054/0/section/Mods
http://www.fileplanet.com/109775/0/section/Mods
http://www.fileplanet.com/217528/210000/fileinfo/Fallout:-New-Vegas---Awesome-Face-Yes-Man-Mod had to link to an actual mods as the mods link is broken.

Please pass the word around to fellow modders. Please let us know when you have had a mod removed or not removed, so we can keep track and ensure things are actually moving.

[Damned_Queen]

We only two people running the website, it becomes difficult to see every corner of the submissions.

Am I the only one who thinks this statement doesn't hold water? Only two people running an IGN partner site, using an IGN email address as a contact?

[Crystal Birch]

"We only two people running the website, it becomes difficult to see every corner of the submissions."

Am I the only one who thinks this statement doesn't hold water? Only two people running an IGN partner site, using an IGN email address as a contact?

Nope. Sounds pretty ludicrous to me too.

I am really glad that progress is being made.

[Charles Weber]

Am I the only one who thinks this statement doesn't hold water? Only two people running an IGN partner site, using an IGN email address as a contact?

I do not understand your reasoning. Could you explain (preferably in a thread where this discussion would be appropriate -- just leave a link here)?

[lydia nekongo]

I like file planet

cause I'm not banned there

[Naughty not Nice]

I do not understand your reasoning. Could you explain (preferably in a thread where this discussion would be appropriate -- just leave a link here)?

IGN is a big site, with lots of people working on it. Fileplanet, part of IGN, is a very popular download service as well. It would be strange if they only had 2 people on the job for maintaining the entire site.

[Stephanie I]

IGN is a big site, with lots of people working on it. Fileplanet, part of IGN, is a very popular download service as well. It would be strange if they only had 2 people on the job for maintaining the entire site.

I'm guessing that he meant there are only two moderators for file uploads.

[cutiecute]

Am I the only one who thinks this statement doesn't hold water? Only two people running an IGN partner site, using an IGN email address as a contact?

Definitely. Anyone who knows IGN should be surprised there were two people on it.

[ijohnnny]

I'm guessing that he meant there are only two moderators for file uploads.

Err right. Good point.

[Jessica Lloyd]

Updated the first post. I am trying to get the word out to the modders, if people don't actually take this opportunity to get their mods removed, then it has all been for nothing. We must act while FilePlanet is aware there is a problem and is actually waiting for our communication.

If you would like to help, you could post a link to this thread in your signature to spread the word around this and other forums.

Please, please post a note here if your file is removed or not so we can keep track and ensure that we are getting the results promised.

[Louise Andrew]

Am I the only one who thinks this statement doesn't hold water? Only two people running an IGN partner site, using an IGN email address as a contact?

I don't see why you would need more people to run such a simple site. It doesn't mean that they are making all the content.

[Laura Mclean]

Just wanted to let you know I talked with File Planet about this. Essentially they explained that the mods are getting uploaded by users because they have a public submission system -- just as any user can upload a video to YouTube.

If you run into an issue with a mod of yours showing up and you want to do something about it, shoot me a PM and I can point you in the right direction.

[Claire Vaux]

Thank-you Gstaff...

They should have just said...

"It has come to our attention that some USERS, non-content-owners, are uploading content related to MODDING and MODS, without the appropriate permissions. If you feel that someone has uploaded content which you own, in part or in whole, and have not given the user permission to distribute the file on this service... Please contact Jramos@IGN.com to resolve the situation. The staffing is limited, so please understand that delays related to take-down requests are inevitable. Please provide all information you can, related to ownership, including original links to your original owned content, or other property rights, related to the uploaded content."

(Though, they should just have a "Report content" on the files page. They have taken a step further, to ensure MODDERS have a direct voice to the issue, here in the forum.)

[Ash]

That is great news!

Now we just need to get the word out to modders everywhere.

[Damned_Queen]

The File Planet policy explained by @Gstaff is still a naive procedure because it really opens up the flood gates for serious abuse. YouTube's policy is somewhat more suited for this kind of dealings but still they also have problems with that. I hope FilePlanet revises their policy on this issue. I wonder what they were thinking when they wrote this policy.

[*Chloe*]

Once the integration to steam is live... I doubt many people will be using external sites for mods, unless they are using hacked versions of the game...

Though, I can't imagine why anyone would NOT want the MOD listed on that site, unless they just can't "fix" or "update" the user-loaded file, and thus, want the crippled file removed.

[Marine x]

I know that it is very likely that I won't be using Steam, not unless they come up with a proper mod information and upload page, controlled by the modder. Not a lot in it for me to simply 'have Steam package and upload my mod to be rated, flagged and downloaded by users.' I don't even get any comments from users and can not leave comments for users, no point in writing a readme with credits, and it would seem that I relinquish all control over my mod in this system. Thankfully we still have the option to upload to non steam sites, because if steam was the only option then I simply wouldn't release mods anymore. So external sites will still very much be used. But that is a different discussion altogether.

I am going on the information released so far and by the type of site that Steam is. Things may yet be different...who knows. We are all waiting with bated breath to hear just how this steam system is going to function.

JD_Mortal, it is a complete fallacy that modders simply want their mod spread around to as many people as possible. Many, many modders like me, enjoy interacting with users of their mods, hearing ideas, learning from other modders and being part of a community, not just releasing mods and moving onto banging out the next one like some kind of modder sweatshop. We release mods, not just to throw it out and hope we get some sort of fame, but for the whole modding experience. We don't get paid by the download, so download numbers just don't count.

So not only is FilePlanet depriving modders of that interaction, but also giving downloaders broken and non updated mods, old versions, a complete lack of information on compatibility patches and any feedback does not reach the modders.

[Judy Lynch]

So not only is FilePlanet depriving modders of that interaction, but also giving downloaders broken and unupdated mods, old versions, a complete lack of information on compatibility patches and any feedback does not reach the modders.

Got it...

So you can't "converse" as that user, because the upload is "not your upload", though it is actually "your file/mod".

I do hope that the steam integration does list/allow contact info, sample images/video, or some form of support link. (Going by names is useless, and will lead to all sorts of name-hacking to get plugins "on top"... Arg... "AAAAAAAAA_superMod"... WTH does it do? lol....

[mishionary]

Got it...

So you can't "converse" as that user, because the upload is "not your upload", though it is actually "your file/mod".

I do hope that the steam integration does list/allow contact info, sample images/video, or some form of support link. (Going by names is useless, and will lead to all sorts of name-hacking to get plugins "on top"... Arg... "AAAAAAAAA_superMod"... WTH does it do? lol....

Most modders don't even know that the files are on FilePlanet because they were never told. Most modders specifically state that their file is not to be uploaded to another site because they want and need to keep track of the file, for a variety of reasons...bugs, compatibility issues, user experience etc...

But look at it this way too. If you uploaded your hard work for free and all you asked is that it not be reuploaded (not a lot of ask) and people just ignored your wishes...would you keep uploading? Why on earth would anyone want to continue contributing their time and effort, for free, only to take abuse for it. If we want to keep modders modding then we need to at the very least respect their right to state their permissions on their upload page and have those permissions adhered to.

On the steam thing....I hope that steam come up with something along the lines of the curent upload pages that are present on Nexus, Tes Alliance, Planet Elder Scrolls or this whole Steam mod thing has the potential to be a complete disaster and break more games then the 1.2 patch. But then I am sure that Bethesda know what they are doing and are fully aware of all potential problems. Maybe things will work out well. Right now it seems a system geared towards the downloader with nothing in it for the modder...but I may be wrong, only time will tell.

[Neliel Kudoh]

It's worth noting again that the Fileplanet "public submission" thing they're talking about now requires you to be logged in to a registered account. This was NOT the case before we raised awareness of the issue. Prior to a couple of weeks ago you could anonymously upload whatever you felt like to them, which is where the vast majority of the problem came from.

Now it's not any different than Nexus since you have to register before you can upload. The difference is that Nexus has always had procedures in place to report stolen content. Fileplanet didn't. Though it would be nice if they had a "report this" button that went to the right people automatically.

[Jordan Fletcher]

Thanks.. I've sent countless emails and used their pathetic ticker system too many times to get my mod taken down. Normally I wouldn't have minded if it wasn't so horrendously outdated. I wonder how many emails this guy is going to get flooded with now?