While browsing the internet, I found this Forbes article - Why Skyrim Is Not My Game Of The Year- written in December 2011. Coincidently, just like the guy who wrote this, I also put around 100 hours in the game so far, and also have been annoyed by the same exact issues listed in this article of his - issues that sadly cannot be fixed by any mod and that made the game somewhat disappointing to me.

Posting it here.

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2011/12/22/why-skyrim-is-not-my-game-of-the-year/
Can only say I completely agree with this ( even if its old as hell , lol. ) , this article really nailed it.

in the end Skyrim is a good and fun game, yep, but it's not anything unforgivable that I'll remember forever, like Planescape Torment, Baldur's Gate 2, Red Dead Redemption, Mass Effect, or Warcraft 3.

I'd rate it 8 - 8.5 , nothing like those absurd 9.5 - 10 critics give. IMO, The Witcher 2 should've gotten the praise Skyrim got.

I think its actually impossible to make a skyrim/withcer 2 in one game from a budget/business perspective.

They have to chose, massive open world, or focused immersive story.

I agree with some points, i personally enjoyed the witcher 2 more than skyrim as well.

This is me clapping sadly he isn't the first (or last) to relay this thought, and it will fall on def ears.

Then lets keep bumping it until people start to take notice!

But now seriously, yeah, unfortunately, there were probably thousands of people who weren't blinded by the hype or how shiny the game was and actually were able to notice the huge flaws of Skyrim, and weren't heard...

Hell, bugs or the UI, two things people didn't stop complaining about, were my LESSER annoyances with Skyrim...

New Vegas had both. Granted, the world wasn't as big as Skyrim's (or at least I don't think it is) and the game is much, much less focused on dungeon crawling, but still.

Really? Hell, then I'm going to try New Vegas right now hehe. Bought it on the steam summer sales and havent tried it yet.

What would be really cool, was if people started adding NPCs with personalities and quests. Voice acting wouldn't be necessary - Most of Morrowinds NPCs didn't have that? - so it would boil to creativity. And amongst millions of TES fans , there surely must be some creative people with some writing skills, right?

From what I've read, Skyrim is a much better game than Witcher 2 or 1...

New Vegas is pretty much my favorite gome of all time now, haha. You should definitely play it. As a warning, though, a lot of people don't like that you're "railroaded" for the first few hours of the game down a specific path. You actually aren't, but there are a lot of high level enemies in your way in the beginning of the game. After you get to New Vegas it opens up, though. It's kind of like Morrowind in that there are certain areas that you will just have to avoid for a while until your character is strong enough.

While Mass Effect is my favorite series of all time since i was there from the beginning with it, Skyrim is still a very very good game even if story and narrative are essential to the game. Trust as a guy who plays Mass Effect, without a doubt the best story driven game of our generation, story doesn't have to be central in all games. Sometimes you just want to have fun and roleplay or just screw around and Skyrim is an amazing game for that since there isn't some strict storyline constantly telling you what you are.

The problem Ramnozack is that even for roleplaying Skyrim ain't that good. Most of the quests have only one or two at most possible outcomes - most have only one ! - and most of the conversations, one or two answers.

That said I do like to roleplay as my Nord warrior who served for long in the Imperial army in foreign regions and returned home in Skyrim, my High Elf Thalmor deserter that deserted the AD because he's a High Elf who belives in Talos and my Redguard who's a mercenary from Hammerfell coming to Skyrim to get the most profit as possible


And story doesn't have to be central in all games, I agree - Dark Souls says hello , for example - but gameplay was also one of the major points of the article.

despite i'm a HUGE TES fan, witcher 1 and 2 have by far the best plotlines, player freedom of choices that can drasticaly alter the mainstory, Npcs, cities that really feel like real cities AND World design (shamefuly it's not entirely open like in TES, just the sections where the story in been developed) in a RPG for me :3
try it, if you like RPGs, you wont regret

tl;dr

It's a god damned game. You either enjoy it or not, you don't live for it. Jesus christ. All those discussions about how much Skyrim svcks ass are laughable to me - what's funny is all those people who think to themslves "man I really hated this, I need to let the world know - it's my responsibility"; now it's not, nobody cares. Majority of the people have absolutely fallen in love with this game and that's what matters.

Skyrim doesn't svcks ass, it's a discussion about its flaws. And if it's a laughable discussion , why are you on it? You could just laugh and ignore the thread.

Maybe don't post in a thread where you can't even be bothered to read the first post?

Well, of course Skyrim isn't the best game. It's a brilliant game, but not the best. That honor goes to Morrowind.


Joking, I love all TES equally.

If you didn't read why did you reply? you'd find that your post has 0 to do with anything since nothing you said this thread was about, is what this thread is about.

Well, of course Skyrim isn't the best game. It's a brilliant game, but not the best. That honor goes to Morrowind.

I'm yet to try Morrowind. But I do like how it sounds ( Heard your choices actually have impact on the world, for example, )

From what I've read, Skyrim is a much better game than Witcher 2 or 1...

It's questionable if it's better than the first Witcher, IMO.

But The Witcher 2 blows Skyrim out of the water. Gameplay? TW2 has a far more flexible and fun combat than Skyrim.

Graphics? Absolutely. Can't even compare both.

Story? TW2 is one of the best stories I've ever seen.

Voice acting? There's a couple voices better in Skyrim, but the majority of the characters in TW2 are voiced better than Skyrim's.


The ONLY thing Skyrim beats TW2 in is the lasting appeal, and as the article said...

The fact that you can put a hundred hours in exploring all these places does not necessarily mean your game is ten times better than one that’s a mere ten hours length. Brevity allows games to use every minute with care (the good ones anyway), but sprawling adventures will often find themselves overloaded with filler. Would Star Wars have been a better film if it was eleven hours long instead of two? Perhaps, but most likely not.

Read the article BTW?

I agree with you but you might want to change the title. For last couple of days we had a lot of complaint threads. And people who get tired of them might look at the title first and post second lol. Just a little advice.

How do I change titles? I'm a newb. :B

What title should I put " Forbes Article: Why Skyrim Is Not My Game of the Year" ? lol.

Um...brb I got go find out how -Is embarassed-.

Edit: I have no clue how to change thread title. I think the only way is to pm a mod and ask them to do it? But its not that serious. Keep the title.

Im with you. Totally.

Did your actions have more impact in Morrowind?



@VideoGameMage

Know any mod for me to PM?

I'll just add a few words to the title.

Gonna be honest, you wont see it with Morrowinds static NPC's, but you realize it through talking with them. responses, your stronghold(s) Rumors, gratitude from Some(!) npc's after doing quests.

The only mod I see online right now is Ratwar

Gonna be honest, you wont see it with Morrowinds static NPC's, but you realize it through talking with them. responses, your stronghold(s) Rumors, gratitude from Some(!) npc's after doing quests.

Guards are the only ones who ever showed some sign of gratitude in Skyrim lol. Yeah, they still threaten to drag you to the Dragonsreach dungeon but they say things like " You saved this very land and our very souls."

To make it less worse, I pretend that they're kidding when they threaten to toss me in the dungeons, lol.