I'm sick of my mage, so to end his run, I'd like to do some overpowered spell slinging. So I levelled up my enchanting to 85 got the necessary perks.Though, now when i enchant stuff, it only gives me 23%, despite using grand soul gems, and having 100% stronger enchants and all the other perks. Am I missing something? Do I need to be a higher level to get the full 25% per item?

Are you drinking a Fortify Enchanting potion?

You need to use fortify enchanting potions, and you may need to create those potions while wearing fortify alchemy gear that you enchanted under the influence of fortify enchanting potions.

Your enchanting skill needs to be at 100 as well. Either enchant some more to level it or prepare a potion to temporarily fortify it.

You should have 25% without it.

As others have said, you can use Fortify Restoration to make an insanely strong character if you like - you can reduce spells to nothing with a single item

Like Miltos said, your Enchanting needs to be at 100 for the best results. Unlike others have said, you do not need to superbuff your character just to get the 25% enchants.

How does that work, or are you jsut mistaken?


Thanks, I'll get right on that.

the only difference between 80 enchanting and 100 enchanting is being able to get the perk that lets you put two enchants on an item.
Enchanting skill does nothing for you, it just lets you buy perks.

Obviously the soul gem you use matters, and using anything less than a grand gem on gear you want to wear is dumb, so not much needs to be said there.

The 20% increase perks are at 0/20/40/60/80 and the 25% to fortify perk is at 50-60ish. That said, going to 100 to put two enchants per item is pretty spiffy.
You have 4 slots you can enchant with 23% reduction, giving 92% reduction total, which is plenty.

Using +enchanting potions (especially if you made them while wearing +alchemy gear) can push that up to 25% or more so you can get free casting.
(unlike skill, enchanting potions give a % bonus to the enchanting effect).

92 isn't plenty, I still run out of magicka using the upper tier destruction spells. And which is it, does the skill need to be on 100 (I did doubt this myself), or do I need potions to get from 23 tot 25%?

That isn't true at all, the power of your enchants increase with your enchanting skill level. Once you level enchanting to 100 your fortify destruction w/ grand soul gem will be 25%, without any potions. You will also get to use 2 enchants so you can make +62 health or mana and -25% destruction spell cost armor, or make 2 schools of magic completely free to cast.

I'm not mistaken - but I don't blame you for thinking that. As absurd as it is I have Daedric blades that deal thousands of hit points, ebony boots that have got me to the armour cap alone and a ring that gives me thousands of % magicka regen and free destruction

It's an exploit, so it's up to you whether you want to use it, but through alchemy (obviously it's better when perked) you can create (by drinking fortify restoration potions, and then using the alchemy station) potions with significantly higher magnitude.

So my fortify enchanting and smithing potions are worth an absolute fortune and magnify the ability to an insane degree.

I would use it, but that seems more trouble than I want, (don't have many ingredients, and alchemy is very low). I just want to get 0 cost on destruction, wreck some havoc, and start a new character.

TBH the more skill you got the more powerful crafted stuff with said skill is and the boost never really stops (well it does at the point where the Enchant Fort Alchemy->Fort Ench pot loop hits the point where you cant raise them any more due to diminishing returns and rounding down).
The basic formula for crafting is X*(slvl+bonuses)/100 where X is the value/% boost that craft gives at slvl 100. BTW the smithing perks double the value of X that all.

This easily seen on PC with console add a skill buff mod command player.modav skill X.

Lol chiken or the egg?

If you want free destruction, level your enchanting to 100. You do not need any potions to get 25%.

Ok, but I'm out of soul gems now... Any tips on where to get some in big quantities?

Mage college, every vendor there has them. Once you have a bunch of empty ones, find a hideout with lots of Draugr or soul trap animals in the wild.

Being at 100 enchant should get you 25% without any other problems. I'm at 100 enchanting and don't use any potions or anything and I get 25% off.

dwemer ruins are good for soul gems.
alternatively if your archmage just go to the college and any that are lying around are technically yours although most will be empty.

also for beter enchanting use potion store bought imp enchanting potions to enchant your armour when you have 100 skill and that should give you up to 28% per item i think which possibly allows you to do 3 of them and then do the last as an "all school" reduction for a little help when you want to cast other stuff.

Can you enchant with an "all school" reduction? Didn't know that

Just found out you can't - never mind, would have been nice

You can enchant one piece, I think chest with all schools reduction, but it isn't 25%. Not sure what it maxes out at 100 enchanting, I just made destruction free and added mana and health with the second enchant.

Are you sure? You can't disenchant either the Saarthal Amulet, the Diadem of the Savant or the Arch Mage robes which are the only places I've seen the enchant.

I'm pretty sure you can't enchant items with All School reduction

I have the enchant available to me, I don't know where I got it from. It only goes on one piece of gear though, so it really isn't that great.

It is when you can boost it with the restoration glitch! That would be fooking epic. I need to find it