It was posted on the Wasteland 2 forums, and the full quote is:

"id say play skyrim, to learn from the mistakes of the biggest state-of-the-art rpg. too many useless skills, a vast void filled with nothing, lifeless npcs, very short timed entertainment, stupid animal like creatures as a central story element, too many pointless things to do, unconnected main questlines, very unchallanging gameplay and the biggest flaw of all, no impact by the player on the game environment."

I'll cut the front a bit to make it concise, but it's otherwise pretty much perfect.

I don't know man... don't you think that's putting it a bit harshly? I mean, you obviously enjoy the game. 869 posts on the forums. Not sure how much of that is on the Skyrim forums... but still.

I'd say that it is fairly close. He forgot poorly coded and incomplete.

You know what? I'm quite tired of all the complaining on this forum.
Sure, I can agree to many of your points, but why bother posting it? You are free to state your opinion, bur you're not really contributing to this forum. I was a bit let down by Skyrim, but I nonetheless logged 300 hours into it, then I moved in, instead of coming here to complain. You should simply let it go and move on too.

Needs facts to back it up, if you want to be taken seriously, proof of said observations, along with in-depth providings of "what-how-why" the said opinions should be considered useful to any, if not all who wish to buy the game. Or even useful to future development.

Otherwise, it is just a list of opinionation that can't be validated with any effort on the creator, useless in the sense of providing anyone insight into whether or not to buy the game in the first place, or consider posting it directed to the devs for consideration on TES VI creation. (Fact)

Though I guess this wasn't so much of a discussion, so much more as a post of "this is how I feel, get over it" kind of thing. The way I see it at least.

I can see reasons for why in some areas, but, provided, bring up factual accounts. Could have done better in areas but they must have done something right for it to sell so much, leaves for improvement next TES, no?

Lesson: Don't feed the flames kiddies, you'll get burnt if you reply angrily if you disagree .

yeah that quote sums up skyrim. well done to whoever originally posted that.

This. Stated perfectly, my friend.

That's harsh, I agree that Skyrim is lacking on some area but it is still a good game, can I enjoy Skyrim like I enjoy Oblivion or Morrowind? No I can't, but do I enjoy it nonetheless? Of course.

I came to this section of the forum to discuss gameplay within Skyrim. Instead I see threads like this and I just move back to the Morrowind/Elder Scrolls General and lurk there.

I agree with this completely but you have to expect some flaming posting this in Skyrim General Discussion. I for one still think Skyrim is a fun game and still play it occasionally, but yeah, it's obviously not something Brian Fargo or the Wasteland 2 team should be looking at while developing an old-school RPG. At least, not for inspiration.

Happens to me all the time. I wake up in the morning, pour myself some orange juice, sit down for a nice lurking session and find this stuff. Makes me sad. So I go back to sleep.

Well, to bluntly honest... the only people who aren't going to take it seriously are those who are too young to have lengthy and in-depth game experience. Those who've been hardcoe gamers for a decade or two or more are used to a greater quality in their game worlds and are much less likely to find fault with the quote. People whose gaming identities were raised mostly on the last generation of games won't have a perspective on how much has been sliced out.

It actually is, because the dev already knows what contributes to all those states. They've been in the business long enough. All they need is the public recognition of those things, and the admittance that they are indeed problems. They know how to fix it if they actually care to. Skyrim looks like it was made to make tons of cash by being simplistic enough for every brain-dead joe to play, while squeezing by with just enough effort. In short, I really think it was intended to be a cash-in title. Maybe Beth just wants to focus on making cash-ins from now on, but I hope they'll reclaim their integrity.

Maybe he has 868 posts in the Morrowind forum.

He's most active in Skyrim General Discussion. But then again, so am I, and I usually join in on "complaint" threads.

I normally try to stay away from them, but the title was a bit misleading. Now I keep finding myself back here.

Useless skills?....no one forces you to learn skills you don't want.
Lifeless npcs?...sorry but thats wrong.
Short timed entertainment? - I've played 380 hours on my first character and I haven't finished yet.
Stupid Creatures? ....most creatures IRL are stupid - what do you want? Einstein chickens?
Unconnected questlines? so the Dark brotherhood quests don't cross over into the Blades quests? of course they don't! They shouldn't!

If you don't like it......Don't play it and don't whinge in public.

You can always go back to Doom.

Still needs factual representation. I see areas where I didn't like something, like how unaffected the world is, I can agree on that, its just give an example. Don't just go out blatantly and say " 'x' is bad because its no good in the 'y' area" type/ mention why.

I know what you are talking about, but some devs, on both sides, may be skeptical to your opinion because of lack of examples that they can experience in-game. Therefore it is like saying to a child, "Stealing is bad, don't do it." when you could say "Stealing will get you put into a jail, which is a center where people go, like a time-out, but much longer." One will reach the reader more efficiently than the other, when the same thing was basically said in both contexts.

Anyone with sense will probably agree that without facts or examples your opinion will be kicked under the table and told not to come out unless you have something good to say.

Nonetheless, I enjoy the game, Some improvement in some areas could be appreciated very much, but unless we voice our opinions with examples they are null.

Moving on to next thread.

I disagree with 90% of that quote.
The other 10% doesn't have a chance of tarnishing my enjoyment. And at the end of the day, that's all that matters. Not the forum posts of people jealous of Skyrim's success.

You're a young gamer. And DOOM isn't an RPG. Neither is Skyrim though, so maybe I'll have to concede to your rebuttal. To be an RPG there must actually be a role to play in the world... but in Skyrim, well: "and the biggest flaw of all, no impact by the player on the game environment." Skyrim is just an action-adventure game.

Yeah, I'm so jealous of a video game.

Why do people always go back to the same arguments when people dislike something they like, "You are stupid", "You are Jealous" and "You svck"

For me, skyrim was great, but it didn't last long enough. I found myself logging 1000 hours into oblivion, and only a measly 160 in skyrim. Skyrim is an alright game, and that post is a bit harsh, but it's not far from my opinion about skyrim.

And I'm an old gamer. And Skyrim is fun as hell. Just like all the other Elder Scrolls games. What's your point? Don't like the game:

A. Post constructive feedback
B. Stop playing it and play games you enjoy and post on forums on said games if you wish

I think what he meant by unconnected questline is that many plot points are discarded and not used.

For example

Because it's easier than just admitting that people have different opinions.