Ive played htis non stop since release, and i've noticed something thats grinding my patience into dust...

The enemy is highly organized, does a great job of placing defense at strategic points, shoots well, dodges/covers, and complete objectives with skill and precision. They will take alternate routs, and flank effectively, and eventually grind their way to doing what needs to be done. They ALSO support each other with GREAT efficiency. They excercise good team work and generally seem like a pretty decently smart AI.

On the other hand...

Your allies, however, seem to run around like chickens with their head cut off... Theyre generally unfocused, dont know how to F***ING support you, or any one for that, and have absolutely no ability to push for the objective. It also seems that friendly AI are completely incapable of actually KILLING the enemy team. 9/10 cases, i'm the ONLY one scoring kills, and clearing enough of the way to move the objective forward. Unfortunately, i'm not a freaking 1 man army and its just not enough.

This problem glared in my face, during the "Be More Objective" challenge. The 2 star rating, is A B S O L U T E L Y impossible. For me any way, i've seen youtubes, and i'm flabbergasted that the guy completed the objectives with almost no resistance. My team isnt pulling their own weight, and i cant get even close to the objective to take it. If i CAN get lucky enough to get the blast, and repair mission down, the hack objective is just ridiculous. I dont think ive even gotten the box down long enough to even move away. Again, i'm the ONLY one dropping enemies, and clearing the objective, but by the time i get it clear enough to get in, they've respawned and just wipe me out (naturally shooting me first, i'm their objective) and then proceed to annihilate my team.

Just now, i was playing the resistance second mission, and everything went smoothly, thanks to me mowing everything down that blinked at me, and pushing the objective forward. However, while escorting the dude back, we got about 3/4 of the way, to that one choke point near the end, and we starting having issues...

"okay" i said, "i'll go take the health command post, and firewall it, being the crafty operative i am" and so i did. I then held it for 2-3 minutes, before finally getting wacked... no one came to help, so i assumed they were all doing what they were supposed to. "Ah, that shoulda helped a bit" i thought... So i ran back to the objective... and what do i find? He hadnt even moved an inch... NOBODY, not one of the 3 medics, got him up, or moved him. They were all to busy getting rocked by the enemy and ignoring the primary objective to make any progress. So i came back, and switched to medic, and basically carried him myself. We still lost, though, because NOBODY, not one guy, while i was escorting the objective came to help fend off the waves of enemies that were spraying me down.

For the record, for the challenges, i did all the others just fine, but i want that last SMG and speed slings/holsters. Its bothering me that i cant do it, because i'm doing everything myself. The friendlies arnt even being good distractions...

Is this like a PC issue? Because the video i watched, i think was on the 360, and he had SO much less of a problem. His allies actually downed people and allowed him to get into the objectives.

Just wait till you play the Resistance missions on Hard.

Just did that and I almost stabbed myself a few times.

Actually i am playing on hard. Medium, the enemy, rather then strategies, just kept piling onto the same choke point over and over and over... it was a joke, i died like once the entire round.

EDIT:

Actually, might that be the issue, that its retarding up your allies to make it "harder"? I thought brink didnt do that...

Thats probably the way it is.. I only have the game on normal and its clear the teammate AI is non-existent. I havent even completed Mission 2 for Security yet because of it.. I get the data key and not a single bot runs with me or even starts heading back to the upload point so when I get there its 1 v 8 and I can never complete it.

Nope. Playing on regular myself because im not used to this game yet and its not "Hard Stupid" bots. Enemy always seems better your guys alway seem dumb.

Fourth mission for the resistance you might as well do it with a full team of people playing because the AI only care about one position near the final objective. I basically ragequit it with 2 minutes on the clock after being at 50-80% hack and the enemy team plowing me only to have the rest of my team come in and revive me. then LEAVE me again. The AI is AWFUL.

Is this like a PC issue? Because the video i watched, i think was on the 360, and he had SO much less of a problem. His allies actually downed people and allowed him to get into the objectives.
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Xbox too, its [censored] insane, your right no one helps AT ALL and you have to kill everybody in order to do the hack, but on look its too late now the entire enemy team is back from the grave in a miraculous time, its like you didn't kill any in the first place!

I think as you level up the enemy AI gets harder but your team gets worse the higher in level you get.

I finished the Resistance side without much of a fuss and now I'm stuck on the 2nd Security mission and the bots break down on the last objective.

Nope, this is not only a PC concern, I think.

I've only played a couple of hours, but I definitely noticed my AI was not particularly....bright.
They DO do some of the objectives and kill the enemy from time to time.....but they RUSH into a room full of enemies quite a bit and I (the Medic)
keep hearing "Medic! Medic!" every other second, lol!
They also get confused about which objective to defend---they sometimes spread everywhere.

I wonder how Easy mode is? I hope the enemy AI become herpy-derp like my teammate AI. Otherwise, it's going to be really, really, really difficult to
finish any of the story missions if I keep dying like this, lol!

I'm not gana lie, I'm so fed up that ill say that the friendly AI is a gale ruining flaw. Hope they realize theory blunder and fix it... Hopefully online will still be fun...

You guys are totally right, I rented this for $7 and feel totally boned. This game is like playing something with A.I. that is ten years old, it seems like they grabbed a bunch of games with [censored] AI and threw them into a blender then refined the pure essence of crap AI and designed an entire game around it. I don't svck at games but Jesus Christ I can only shoot so many before I get cheaply shot in the back. Horrible game thank god I didn't pay for it and if I did it would be going on Ebay already.

Its B.S. because I was playing on easy and its difficult even on that setting because you get no backup, your allies just screw off while you get your ass kicked and get constantly mowed down by the enemy...I actually feel like your allies are a handicap.

I spent 30 minutes on the second level trying to run the damn case to the drop off point with virtually no help at all. The one time that an allied AI actually picked up the case he ran it all the way back to the drop point and I was like "FINALLY" and then right as he got to it he turned around and ran twenty feet away down a stairway to get shot to hell by the enemy who then touched the case and reset it. :banghead:

In fact the only reason I actually got on the forum was to complain about it. This game svcks there's no doubt about it and everything that is actually fun about the game is overshadowed by the fact that you're basically playing a game alone with NPCs for ambience.

From what I've heard and can compare I think the teammate AI is a little better on Easy, they can get kills and do objectives. However on some objectives where it's a transport a pick up, hacking, or having to set an explosive on a door the Enemy AI gets really bad because they will all sit and camp the one objective that you need to get to. The shooting ability of the enemy bots is hit or miss where some times they have pin point accuracy, while other times they are spray and praying. Even when you team is off doing secondary objectives on easy mode (when you really need them to be doing the main objective), the enemy AI will still sit at the one main objective.

I agree completely, the AI in this game is set to make the player work. The only thing that keeps me sane when playing with the half-witted teammates is thinking they made them like this on purpose to encourage people to play with others. I don't mean online cuz they still have a few lag issues to sort out, but I played through the whole resistance mission alone, and I was raging at times. But 2 friends of mine also have this game and we decided it might be best to start the security in a group, we all made new people and whaddya know? We OWNED, I'm talking the escort mission took maybe a total of 8 mins. After that mission we agreed that if we had time we would just kill and supply each other to gain bonus exp.

I would reccomend one of these:

A) Go to the multiplayer tab in the forums and post to see if you can find at least 2 others to play through with. Each having a designated class to play as, 1 Med, 1 Engineer, and 1 Soldier. It makes things smoother and if you need to hack anything have your engineer switch it up. Works GREAT!!!

B) Do what everyone did in MW2 and join and leave like 3 online matches and send messages to recent players asking if any would be intrested in playing. You could also do a Private Match with just friends, I myself haven't done any but I would assume the connections would be bettter than all the other online games.

And another thing, I've done the lvl 2 & 3 escort with a friend, I do believe you can invite friends to "help" with the op challenges. I may be wrong, but it is worth a try. I know it wont work if they are a higher RANK than you, NOT a higher LEVEL, every 5 levels you go up a rank, this determins what abilities you can get and what online players you face, to make things a bit more fair.

So can we have an actual response from the mods or devs because this is really not good. game is an awesome game and for some reason everyone is having these problems and im betting its coding.
If not i will be possibly demanding my money back from Splash Damage or Bethesda though i am not in the habit of handing games back that are planning on being fixed so i hope they release an emergency patch.

Would definitely be nice to know why they're screwing the players who don't like playing online... It's obvious that the AI is capable of being coherent and objectively intelligent... But not if its you they're playing for...

I've considered that its an intentional design, and I just wasn't working hard enough, but I just wana play my operative, and support the team to their goals, but its like playing with idiots against people who know how to play...

I wanted to kill myself. As I played the game the bots seemed to get worse and worse. I beat the rebel. campagn, start up the save the ark one, hmmm not bad, then the second mission starts, my bots are all standing around the start while im killing everything. then yes OP holly sitballs that challenge is rediculous. as the hack is where i get stuck. i cant even plant the box, because my guys, who are sppose to be destracting the enemy are dying in one hit or are just standing in the open. These bots are broken, anyone who says they have the best bots are [censored] to even state that they are perfect at making them.

Why do people keep recommending for players to play online/co-op (and dismiss the broken AI)----when some of us can't play online or don't like playing online, lol?

What about for those us whose PSN is down right now---thus forcing many PS3 players
to ONLY play single-player, or what about those of us who like to or even prefer to play single-player in our games--even in our FPS games (Blasphemy! I know, right? But...is that so bad to enjoy single-player?). Also, SD says that the single-player can stand on its own and that it's playable for those who play single-player campaigns in FPS games (moi, for example).

Soooo, what do you recommend for those of us who HAVE to work with moronic AI teammates, lol? :laugh:

According to what I've heard we have gotten a response, actually. SD has said that the bots were designed this way on purpose to force you to participate in the missions (their AI gets better and they get more aggressive the closer you are to losing), and they've also said that if there's enough feedback from the community, they will make the friendly bots better.

What feedback would that be? The canceled pre-orders, the flood of forum posts saying we should just play multiplayer to avoid horrible AI, or the game reviews that called SD on their "we have really good AI" bulls***? I was so hyped for this game...

If i knew how, and these forums wernt so "oh no" about it, i'd start a petition to make it an option...

Seriously, why not, instead of having game crippling AI, make an OPTION, and make it just a standard, campaign option, that you can turn off, at will... Not force this broken BS on us. If the issue didnt carry over into challenge, it wouldnt be SO bad, and they need to crank up alot sooner, because its only the last 2 minutes they get into gear, and by then we've been pushed back all the way into our spawn and cant get out. Happened twice just now, playin security...

Ya it makes challenges a nightmare, I played objective for an hour straight to to only get to the hack box once. Usually I couldnt even arm the damn bomb since I would haul ass to the spot and by the time I got there all 8 enemies where just about to pull up and nade spam the hell out of the spot. IF I was lucky enough to plant it would be disarmed before I could instantly respawn. Personally I dont think the enemy AI should boost at all, should remain stock stats through the match IMHO. This game could be awesome if they just fix the crap.

yo it was easy cuz if u noticed he had no special abilities or attachments... so he did it probably starting off the A.I. reads this and takes it dwn a notch... I just beat it today and its very possible.... u jus make a new charac. and do the challenge only thing u have to do is kill the majority of them and ur team can handle the rest... oh and for the hack part which is the hardest just try to kill them all then put up ur hack box once u do that run around the corner till they come then shoot and kill the majority and the repeat it may seem long but i beat it like this and had 4 mins still to go... its fool proof brother give ot a shot

I've 3-starred all the challenges (that was fairly easy) and i've finished resistance on hard. Playing through Sec now - and i tell you what, the second level is BLOODY RIDICULOUS. The friendly AI makes it almost impossible to win, seeing as it's a friggin 3 part level, i get up to the 3rd part every time and my [censored] teammates don't do ANYTHING so i'm left trying to kill the enemy team, grab the case and take it to the train - but ohhhh no, of course, coz my spastic team is too [censored] to help, i die and the case gets reset. RINSE AND REPEAT UNTIL MISSION FAIL.......

ARRGHHHH
/end rage.

So sick of AI. I'm just doing it to finish the campaign, cannot WAIT till i never have to see a computer friendly again. Fail programming.

Just because of the AI's complete and total stupidity made this game a massive failure IMO. the idea of the game is way better than the game actually was, Imean if u guys r Raging at the campaign try the objective challenges, thats where the AI r real failures.All the AI know how to do in this game is thier buffs and thats about it. I mean sure there were times when the graphics would get all blotchy and I would feel like i was playing the original pc gaming graphics but I worked through it. I can honestly say this much, Im glad i rented and didnt buy this cuz this P.O.S. game is not worth $59.99, they would honestly b lucky to recieve $20 from me for this game just cuz i know how bad the AI r.


Oh and P.S.The real B.S. is that u cannot get the challenges playing with friends, u only get them on solo. If u go in with any friends its only counted as a warm up.

:banghead: Oh and it gets better. I turn to my brother and i'm like "man, this level is driving me nuts, can you jump in and give me some help?"

AND THEN LO AND BEHOLD...... co-op doesn't work. Awesome.

i started offline (pc version) did the first campaign for security, then did the objectives (at first all but be more objective **) went online and played around till lvl 10, then went back for (be more) and managed to beat it after about 4 hours spent on it (RAGE)

now i figured I'd go back and finish the campaigns. second campaign for security, my team ai gets the data key, then they all split up and take different routes (and get killed) i try to follow but the carrier runs full steam into the enemy before i can support him and take down the enemy ai

next pass i let them get the data key (because they take it before i can) and i camp the safe so i can pick it up the next time. when i get it, me teammates run full steam away from me as if i'm about to explode

upon the multiple times trying run the key i'm noticing my team ai engineers have been placing turrets in completly random location

also, turrets are messed up and dont shoot anyone

was doing everything on medium, set the mission to easy to see of that helped, no effect