Alright folks, by now, we have all played FO: NV and are quite well aware, there are many glitches. However, the only glitch I have experienced that was difficult to work around were the invisible walls and non solid structures, the latter usually being solvable with fast travel or a quick reload. So they weren't really a big deal. All in all, it's a great game that has a few glitches, but I have not seen a single glitch that isnt fixable and or isnt so blatantly obvious that it WILL BE FIXED.

So here's what I have to say as a gamer.

I have at least played, if not owned every successful, popular or worth playing (which really is different than the other two from time to time) in the last 25 years, and I'm only just going on 19. My first gaming experience was Duke Nukem, then Redneck Rampage, Terminal Velocity, and I had a sega genesis for Mortal combat, finally going back to asteroids and other cheaply made videogames that for their time were the best of the best.

I have yet to see ONE videogame without a "gamebreaking" (As they seem to be wrongfully named these days) glitch. And I won't deny that NV does have ALOT of glitches. But heres the sad part, it's already one of my favorite games of all time. I personally like it more than 3, and in the short time I have had it, have clocked OVER 160 hrs +


So as a gamer, it is very disappointing to see my community of fellow gamers be so impatient with something that is not "broken". Broken is a misnomer used here ALL too frequently. It is damaged yes, but these are nothing to the early glitches of Fo:3, so all points considered, we are all just being too impatient.

So please, as a gamer, consider that this is NOT the worst thing you've ever played, and that it will be fixed at least to some degree. Regardless of how disappointed you are right now, I promise you, it will get better. So stop whining! :brokencomputer:

I whine even about the good stuff.
I eat a really really really tasty desert and I somehow find a reason to be negative about it.
It's in my nature.

So I'll "as a gamer" keep complaining thank you. =D

I was annoyed when all they had told us was they were aware a "small" group of 360 users were experiencing the DLC glitch. Now that they have given us a little more info I'm perfectly happy to wait for the 2nd update.

Well I have been playing games my whole life too and I have never seen a game this bugged before. This is also the first game I ever got day 1 of it's release though (Maybe Civ V came first). I try to keep a positive attitude like you and just hope they all get fixed but it seems like while other people get their problems fixed mine are getting worse.

As I said in another thread, things like crashing and graphics glitches can always be reloaded. For me it's the bigger problems of stuff like reloading certain guns causing you not being able to move or the first couple days of the game erasing my quick and autosave. Things that should have been caught before release.

I usually post problems I have but in no way do I complain and threaten to not buy the game anymore like some people are. Asking for an apology is even worse in my opinion, they made mistakes and they are trying to fix them. If they just ignored everything and everyone then I could see why everyone would be so mad.

My one and only complaint and I talk about this all the time is the difficulty of the game being too easy and that is one thing that would make me not buy the new one. Lucky for me though I play it on a PC and can use mods to change the difficulty.

Why aren't you satisfied with just changing the difficulty through the game menu?

Ye sometimes people tend to overexaggerate and call relatively big glitches game breaking. If your game crashes then I would consider it a big glitch and very annoying, it is however not gamebreaking. To me gamebreaking would be something more like the game just not starting up again or a very important character just never responding no matter how many times you reload.

My guess would be he is already playing on the hardest difficulty?

That would be correct. Very Hard and hardcoe.

Or if you get a bogus message about missing DLC and another about your save device being unavailable and then ALL your save files become unusable and cannot be fixed. Then you come on the 360 issues forum and EVERY thread is about this issue and the only official statement is that a "small" group of 360 users are experiencing this.

Then I'd say you are a tiny minority that a developer with an extremely broad audience simply cannot spend time catering to. That's what mods are for I guess.

This will be my second and last offtopic comment.

That is true BUT... Very hard should be very hard. Normal should be for your average player. I am by no means a great player but I am a good gamer and I have a mouse and keyboard which makes things even easier. Fallout 3 was even easier if I remember correctly.

i love these topics....just because you arent having glitches from He** no one else is...so we should all stop bit**ing because player A is experiencing minimal glitches while player B is having game crashing effects or is getting stuck in a mountain.

yeah its a big exaggeration..till it happens to you and you lose 40 hrs or so of progress or cant even play any more..is that gamebreaking?

i would say so....but shh dont provoke the gorillas...lol

Ofcourse it is, did I suggest it wasn't? Maybe I didn't word it right.

I mean hell, my game has crashed a few times, but I have a reset button. The only annoyance there is that I have my xbox connected through my PC, and for some reason I have to reset my PC to get my xbox to connect whenever I have to reset the console. :brokencomputer:

But all in all, the game is CONSIDERABLY longer than Fo3, strictly referring to main quest line. The MQL in 3 was a joke as far as length goes, at least until you get broken steel, but even then, it was like a 5 hour campaign, which even the multiplayer focused games get more of. Admittedly, the true gem in FO is the side missions and quests, but still, I never got tired of looking for Quai Gon... I mean Aslan... I mean.... whats his name, dead beat dad? (thank you to those of you who got that.) Because it took no time at all!

Personally speaking, the weapons and weapon systems are FAR better, steel sighting AND V.A.Ts? I thought I died and went to heaven, honestly.

Plus they spent AGES more time on character development, PLUS 4 different quest lines.

So theres a few glitches... That they will fix soon... game has some DAMAGE to it yes, but nothing that a little metaphorical duct tape won't fix. :wink_smile:

I love FO and New Vegas is BEYOND exception. :celebration:

No, but my point is that everyone is being impatient. Not that a few complaints arent neccesary, but how about you start coming here to complain when your disc pops out of the machine, rolls down the the bathroom, grabs all the hair it can from the drain and makes a wig.

Until the game will literally NOT WORK ANYMORE.... AT ALL, calling it broken is quite annoying. I'm not by all means saying it dosent svck that peoples games arent at 100%, but we've all heard it.

They will fix it, you will love it.

And despite what they say, these people will buy the next game further down the line.

Happened with 3.

I'm 35 years old and have been an avid gamer my entire life since the days of text based games on the C64. I've never seen a game this borked out of the box in my life so I have no clue what you are talking about. This IS the worst thing most people have ever played, I'm sure. I'd considered lost saves, constant crashes and freezes as gamebreaking. If that's not gamebreaking I don't know what is. I've fought through these glitches but Bethesda is not getting my money day one ever again. I'll wait a couple weeks and make sure they've actually published a product that is finished and works like it should. Gamers, as a community, are getting too forgiving of crap like this.

I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe that ANYONE has lost 40+ hours if they saved AT ALL.

If you don't save once in a while and avoid depending on JUST the auto-save, I'd say it's nigh impossible for this to happen.

And even THEN, if it only happens once or twice, it still is not GAME BREAKING. Is it game breaking when Mew-Two magically escapes the masterball? No, you simply get upset and try again later.

It svcks, but it is avoidable, and in the rare occasions where it is not, it is replaceable.

I dare you to find ONE GAME that has not had SOMEONE experience a glitch of the same or worse magnitude than this one.

i think people have a right to exercise theyre amendment rights....especially when you purchase something and it totally flops right out of the box. Granted maybe its some peoples machines that are messed up...but losing games saves? thats something thats happening to just about everyone and shouldnt have been an issue in the first place....but thats my 2 cents no sense in beating a dead horse.

As I said, I'm CERTAIN that they are well aware of the glitches and they will be fixed.

Go to any other game forum.

Over on the Reach forum, they have people complaining about ENTIRE sets of progress lost.

I think everyone knows how busted and flawed the CoD systems are.

I'm not by any means telling people they cannot complain. I'm just voicing MY opinion that it's a bit annoying, and hopefully get a few people on the "stop whining" bandwagon.

Wait a month and if they havent even SAID anything, THEN it is appropriate to RE post a complaint. But thats just my 2 cents.

As a test I just jumped over to the Bungie forums and I don't see anyone complaining about bugs. Lots of complaints about weapon balance, maps, etc. typical of every FPS but not bugs. I also did a search for Halo Reach bugs and they were ridiculously minor compared to NV. And CoDs systems are flawed because they are easy to exploit. They aren't busted though.

We shouldn't have to wait a month for a game to be fixed. We shouldn't be a company's Beta testers. There is no way in hell they stuck a NV disc into a PS3 and said to themselves, "Oh, yeah, this game is definitely ready for launch." What they did say was, "Yeah, these svckers will deal with the stuttering every time the enter a new cell and the crashes every few hours." There is no way the didn't experience what we are experiencing, which means they just said, "Screw it. This is good enough."

Of course there are a couple of glitches here and there.
But that is just human everyone forgets something.

And also the game is just out yet so everything will be fixed.
Even for pc gamers.
There will be free patches/updates.
At least thats what i think.
If they dont make it They wont make a lot of money.
And the game will be' ''broken''
Just keep playing and support NV everything will be allright!! :thumbsup: :fallout:

Follow the forums. Thats why I am here usually. They have become so degenerated with complaints trolls and whiners that you see thread after thread after thread of complaint, regardlesss of the size or intelligence of the complaint. IE, people over there are having problems too, not that they're dealing with it any better than we are, but the point is that Fo:NV is not the only glitched game, not by a long shot, and anyone who says its the worst is WAY over exaggerating it.

Complainers do not get anything in my opinion. It is just a matter of them expressing their feelings and trying to find someone to relate to so he/she will not feel as bad. I would say stop complaining and get up and do something about it, but there is really not much that can be done. I understand if there is a problem and someone identifies it, but dwelling and complaining about problems is just annoying . If people are so unsatisfied, unappreciative, and none understanding of how hard developers worked to make this game make your own damn video game and shut the hell up. Or just enjoy the good in the game like so many of us do.