Imagine how good Skyrim would have looked if it made use of the latest PC hardware!
I believe Beth could have thrown alot more detail to the PC version and still had amazing sales on all platforms. Infact i think it would of sold even better. Word of mouth about how good a game looks goes a long ...long way.

This article looks a little to the future of PC gaming and shows you just how old the current gen of consoles are in comparrison.

Check out the the graphs at the bottom of the page.

http://www.vg247.com/2011/11/07/tomorrow%E2%80%99s-world-the-rise-and-rise-of-pc-gaming/

Don't get me wrong,i'm loving Skyrim (105 hours played allready)...i love it so much i have never wished a game to make the most out of highend hardware. So sad that this wasn't the case.

I can only hope that beth comeup with a PC patch that gives us DX11 and better textures to really blow me away.

And as for "yet another graphics thread" ..yes it is. I play on PC so why shouldn't i want a game to make the most out of modern hardware.

Why wouldn't beth also want to do this?..they like games right? Why wouldn't they want to see what this Gem of a game would look like with all the bells and whistles!

Yeah the tipping point is coming. But I expect a new gen of consoles some time next year so that point may swing back. What PC gamers really need is for hardware developers to come together and underwrite game development. It would be in their long term interest to do so because at the moment most people's PC hardware (gaming wise) is not even being strained by the last few years of games releases.

On a side note, if you believed game developers words about system requirements for recent games you would be using a very expensive peice of hardware that is not needed. A case in point I meet the minimum system requirements and play this game on high settings without issue. Now if you believed Pete Hines I should be on low settings and having a poor experience.

It's a horrible thought that we have to wait 6 to 8 years every time a new gen of console comes out before we see "huge" improvements to graphics.

It svcks to be the minority,even though it's clearly the most powerfull platform. Can't AMD and Nvidia do something to help the sales of PC's.?Drop some prices on there cards maybe?? We need more people to realise just how good PC gaming is. (can be)

afew myths for console guys out there.

1.You do not have to upgrade every year! A high end PC will last you atleat 3-4 years.

2. you can use an xbox and PS3 controller on your PC.

3 you can plug your PC into your 56" HD tV and sit back on your comfy couch

4. you can do every thing a Console can plus shedloads more.

5. Throw your console in the bin and go buy a PC to help the gaming indusrty make games that look the way they should look in 2011.

IIRC, I'm pretty sure it had something to do with the Deal with Microsoft that no other platform gets more content than the 360, though that doesn't make much sense for the PC. It's mostly to gank the PS3 version from being better than the 360. As for the PC, they probably just didn't want to have a huge fidelity between the 360 and PC quality.

Not talking content or gameplay as this would of been a headache for beth. I realise that gameplay wise,content wise it needs to stay the same across all platforms.


But ,the textures could(and should) be alot better on PC and DX11 effects should be there as standerd in a huge title like this.

AMD and Nvidia teaming up to do some PC hyping could only be good in the long run. (Except for all the children attracted maybe)

It's a good thing we have both AMD and Nvidia...but i agree they both need to do something to boost PC sales and help the gaming industry as a hole. I find it hard to believe that devlopers are happy making games for old hardware.

This focus on technical proficiency is part of what killed PC gaming.

No one wants to play glorified tech demos.



None of this matters when PC has an inferior software library. It's about the games, not the hardware.

As an avid PC gamer I can't help but see the writing on the wall. The PC is becoming a dinosaur quickly. In 5 years we will all have tablets or consoles and they will svck because everything will be written for the cloud. It will be a cybercriminal paradise.

You mean pc gaming is becoming a dinosaur. PC will stay for a long time because many companies depend on it, like Intel, Nvidia AMD and whatnot. I haven't touched a console in 14 years but I don't mind using one in the future if all the tech from these tech giants create stuff to advance the console.

PC boasts a larger number of exclusive games than any other platform.

Also using a computer isn't extremely easy yet.
It requires some intelligence.
Most people are not intelligent, most people are (as the word most implies) average.

PC gaming is always "on the rise" during a console lull, there isn't a mad rush to buy new hardware on the console front as most people who want an Xbox, PS3 or Wii already have one so PC gaming looks to be doing comparatively well

Just wait until the next generation systems come out, then PC gaming will be "dying" again

If you use it daily and many hours each day it will last a year or 1? before you need to replace part/s, if your lucky you might run it for 2 years but sadly hardware are deliberately being made to last shorter so you have to buy it more often.

IF you have a watercooling system i can agree to 3-4 years but no way you will run that long with fans even if you clear dust weekly.

After 1-2 years your Graphics card wich is usually the part that needs to be replaced or Hard Drives unless the card is watercooled.

I havent used fans on hardware in my last two builds, watercooling is just so much better and easier to maintain as you dont need to dust as often and dont forget the noise.

This is just wrong. Every self built PC I have built is still running. The one I gave to my mum is 11 years old and she uses it all the time. The one I'm using now is on for 15 hours a day and is four years old. MTF rates for PC hardware run into many many years. You may have just had bad experiences with your hardware but on average they last a very long time.

Yes that how it used to be, i have a 8 year old server running constantly i used to game on, you cant compare old hardware to new it just doesnt work the same way, it was made to last.

Your hardware normally become technologically obsolete and need to be upgraded long before they die even if you overclock 24/7.

Garh!! My eyes are bleeding. Mod change it back! change it back!

Never mind. the thread god moved.

Uh, it's a PC not a car.

Graphics were never an issue. It's content that worries me. Look at Minecraft, Dwarf Fortress, and then the good old games.

I knew this was happening back in 2007, I seen the signs. Trying to explain this to my friends got me scorn and derision. I was one of the few if only PC gamers in the entire school at the time. I knew from trends what was going to happen, and now there's actual data to support what I knew. This is great. I remember a lot pf people who only five years ago said they would never play PC games. Now they do all the time, and the number is on the rise. Sure it's not always call of duty, or the Witcher 2. Social games count to, and it helps to break down social barriers as to what gaming is. If the trend continues I have no idea. I think that's likely or the other likely option is that with a new generation of consoles the PC goes into a decline once more and picks up towards the ends of their life cycle. But those are just my random thoughts. Though I find it more likely that the PC market will continue to grow despite console releases, there's just way too much access to decent hardware to play some games these days. I am of course referencing the ipad and numerous other advances in powerful miniature devices. Yep it's a really good time to be a PC gamer, a Renaissance. It's been one for a few years now, and hopefully it won't peak any time soon.

I love my PC. :wub:

Consoles are crap, I never understood their popularity. Especially with FPS games, the PC is just far superior.

Well, PC gaming has not been killed (despite all the "Chicken Little" proclamations that pop up every 4 years or so since the '90s). I will agree that it's a barrier to entry for a lot of people and that limits growth in the popularity of the platform.


Good thing most games aren't that.


Hrm...I have an Xbox 360 that collects dust because I just happen to prefer games that don't happen to be console exclusives (or are PC exclusives...like almost all strategy games). Either you're exaggerating or I'm just lucky.


Pretty much. I've been a PC (and console) gamer since the late '80s, and like I said, PC gaming is "dying" or "dead" every 4 years or so. It's still here, and by most accounts hasn't dropped off so much as gaming in general has gotten more popular...resulting in a shift in market share percentages.


Wherever you're buying your hardware...stop. I maintain 3 PCs and a server on average on any given year (since the '90s) and component failure is a rarity for me (in fact, my 360 and Wii both have worse service track records than my PCs by a wide margin despite being used far less often). Maybe it's the one and only area in my life in which I'm lucky...? I have at least one machine running 24/7/365, and in its current configuration I haven't had so much as a noisy fan in years of nonstop up-time.

Dear god, please tell me this was sarcasm.