2 x GTX 580 or wait for 6 series : Othor Games

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:03 pm

Fianlly built new pc, need graphics card

Should I buy 2 x GTX580 1.5gb in SLI or wait till october and see if new 6 series is out?

PC is i7 2600k
ddr3 32gb 2133
ssd 240 ( ocz vertex 3)
mobo has dual x 16 SLI support

GTX590 gets too hot for my liking.
ATI cards are too loud with exhausts (in past experience)

Connected to Sony 40inch TV single display no 3d

Obviously will run game but want it to look best with high frame rate and play future games. My PS3 is not graphically superior any more.

PC cost small fortune but should last 5 years?

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:43 pm

I would wait...unless you're planning to play like another game. :shrug:

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:00 pm

32GB of ram at 2133? What kits are you using? If you're spending that money on ram you should probably just buy the 580s now and re sell them then the 600's come out.

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:09 pm

I wish my computer was that powerful. I have only one GTX 570

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:29 pm

Overkill if u ask me. My gt220(yuk) can prob run it at 20-50+ fps so why even bother considering it built for current gen consoles.
Course unless you mod outa ass then a dif story.

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:05 pm

mushkin redline 2133 9-11-10-28

http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/8GB+Mushkin+Redline+Ridgeback+%23996997+%282x4GB%29+DDR3+2133MHz+9-11-10-28+?productId=44359

surely resale on used graphics cards would mean a huge loss in money?

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:33 am

Buy one GTX580 3gb, then wait until you actually need a second. Granted you have a large display but i think one 580 would be fine. Also at the end of the year when the new stuff comes out the current GPUs will receive a price cut.

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:33 pm

SLI gtx 580 is just overkill if you don't play in 3d, I think.

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:37 am

SLI gtx 580 is just overkill if you don't play in 3d, I think.

ok so save money and just get one 580? Basically I dont want to throw money at machine for few years so should I buy now or wait.

one 580 saves ￡300 so sounds good if you believe it would be enough

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:25 pm

mushkin redline 2133 9-11-10-28

http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/8GB+Mushkin+Redline+Ridgeback+%23996997+%282x4GB%29+DDR3+2133MHz+9-11-10-28+?productId=44359

surely resale on used graphics cards would mean a huge loss in money?

I doubt they would ever go below $400 from their $500 price now, not too large of a loss if you're even considering buying these cards not to mention how much the 600 series cards will be.

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:33 am

If you are only running a single monitor at 1920x1080 then even a single GTX 580 is overkill.....

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:06 pm

As above, I wouldn't bother with the SLI right now.. I doubt you will run into any games within the next 3-4 years that will need more power than a single card right now. Next generation consoles won't be out until late 2015, and all games are going to either have to drastically optimize, or keep scaled back if they are multiplatform releases. Witcher 2 all maxed out is about the only game I can think of that puts my single GTX570 1280MB GDDR5 through any kind of pressure.

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:30 pm

ok so save money and just get one 580? Basically I dont want to throw money at machine for few years so should I buy now or wait.

one 580 saves ￡300 so sounds good if you believe it would be enough

If you want to enhance your games with 8x SSAA (supersampling antialiasing) & still play them with decent framerates, or running games on a 30'' (2560x1600) 2 gtx 580 might be useful.
I would advise you to look at benchmark tests from several trusted hardware testing magazines.
Look what you need.
I personally will buy a new gpu when new consoles are out.

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:58 pm

As above, I wouldn't bother with the SLI right now.. I doubt you will run into any games within the next 3-4 years that will need more power than a single card right now. Next generation consoles won't be out until late 2015, and all games are going to either have to drastically optimize, or keep scaled back if they are multiplatform releases. Witcher 2 all maxed out is about the only game I can think of that puts my single GTX570 1280MB GDDR5 through any kind of pressure.

Well thats what I thought but then I thought each new game pushes more so now witcher maxed out may strain but in a year several games could. Then each year after fps drops on new games.

I also thought would two 580 sli be bottlenecked by processor?.

Man this is rubbish, I just want a good recomendation on a GPU.

Thanks for all replies I am thinking over all advice so far.

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:55 am

What res is Ur tv? It could be 100", but if the res is low it doesn't matter. My 42" plasma is 720p, and I forget the exact res but obviously it's not 1920x1080 like my much smaller 23" led monitor. Your tv is at most 1920x1080, and you wouldn't need 2 580s for any games out now, nor do I think in the near future. Why not buy a 570, wait 2 years, and buy a 7 series?

» Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:24 am

Get one 580 it will last you a good 3 years before it starts gettin a hint of lag on max settings on the majority of games then you can just Sli when that times comes and good for another year or two

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:34 pm

What res is Ur tv? It could be 100", but if the res is low it doesn't matter. My 42" plasma is 720p, and I forget the exact res but obviously it's not 1920x1080 like my much smaller 23" led monitor. Your tv is at most 1920x1080, and you wouldn't need 2 580s for any games out now, nor do I think in the near future. Why not buy a 570, wait 2 years, and buy a 7 series?

1080p so 1920x1080

Last time I had PC was on 17inch monitor.

Ok so one gtx580 - Thanks

Thanks for advice people.

1.5gb or 3gb? - any difference? what was SSAA? - not familiar with that

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:51 am

If you're staying with one 1080p display you only need 1.5gb.

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:20 am

Course I'm sure some mods will drag it down but by then those cards will be cheap as hell. Unless you MUST keep with the Joneses. I wouldnt worry bout it. Depends on your budget, If you can afford then go for it, but if not then [censored] it.

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:42 am

Only PC exclusive games are likely to be able to take advantage of all that power and honestly... even then, the difference for me of 60fps vs 120fps isn't great enough to justify the extra expense. You might run into 3 games in the next 3 years that you might have to turn down shadows or have less AA.... other than that everything until 2015 is likely to be ultra high max settings with just a single card.

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:21 pm

If you're staying with one 1080p display you only need 1.5gb.

Yeah but whats the difference in price why not pay a little more and get twice the amount?

EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support - $484.99

EVGA 03G-P3-1584-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 3072MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - $589.99

» Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:03 am

NIce one thanks

Good advice, will seriously consider before pumping out more money at this pc.

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:36 pm

get ati 6970, it has more stream processors than the 580

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:28 pm

I can only think of one game that will need sli 580 to run well and thats Arma III

» Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:35 am

get ati 6970, it has more steam processors than the 580

Last time I had ATi it was really loud, granted it was when directx10 was released but I would prefere a quiet card as PC is near silent.

I dont wanna argue bout which is better, I found supporters for each online but in my limited experience ATI exhausts kick out some noise.