Head Not Matching Body : IV

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:02 am

I was in the Arena and went up to the Grey Prince when I noticed what he who is an Orc has the body of what I think is an Imperial and so does that adoring/annoying fan who's a Wood Elf, not sure what it was I done which caused it which make me unsure how to correct it, I'm using the HiRez texture replacer but far as I know that only effects the female body...how might I correct this please?

EDIT:

I'm also using Roberts Male Body Replacer.

» Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:21 pm

Have you selected malebodyreplacerv4.esp in Merge Patches and Race Records of the bashed patch?

Posting a load order is always helpful, as there may be other conflicts going on.

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:23 am

Yes and yes, I've got 44hours of play time and it's only now I've noticed it so I can't even say if it was like that to begin with or if it was something I've done/changed...but then I don't recall changing anything to do with body or race :confused:

L/O

Spoiler

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» Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:02 pm

Ok, I don't see anything else jumping out that would alter male bodies. Have you checked if it's just these two NPC's that seem off, or is it all orc and wood elves?

If it's just the two, personally I wouldn't worry about it. If it's all, then try manually recopying Roberts textures for orc / wood elf into your data folder. (They all use the same body mesh so it's probably just a texture issue)

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:51 am

Use TES4Edit to check which mods that affect the Grey Prince and the Adoring Fan.

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:46 am

Right if I'm looking at this right after loading all mods, selecting Oblivion.esm, NPCs, and finding him the mods affecting him would be in the tabs at the top on the right hand side...so for the Adoring Fan it's OOO.esm, OOO.esp, Mayus Animation Overhaul and Bash Patch. The Grey Prince I can't find him he's not under THE Grey Prince or Grey Prince so...

But yeah those are what came up for the Adoring Fan and the only thing thats said under RNAM - Race is just that he's a Wood Elf so where do I go from here?

» Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:19 pm

Right if I'm looking at this right after loading all mods, selecting Oblivion.esm, NPCs, and finding him the mods affecting him would be in the tabs at the top on the right hand side...so for the Adoring Fan it's OOO.esm, OOO.esp, Mayus Animation Overhaul and Bash Patch. The Grey Prince I can't find him he's not under THE Grey Prince or Grey Prince so...

But yeah those are what came up for the Adoring Fan and the only thing thats said under RNAM - Race is just that he's a Wood Elf so where do I go from here?

The Gray Prince's name is Agronak gro-Malog. Sounds like a messed up install of Robert's male then perhaps? Double check that install. Also, post your load order.

» Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:04 pm

Okay mods effecting the Grey Prince are OOO.esm, UOP.esp, OOO.esp, Mayus Animation Overhaul and Bash Patch. Same thing about race just saying he's an Orc.

Current L/O is in the third post.

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:55 am

Okay mods effecting the Grey Prince are OOO.esm, UOP.esp, OOO.esp, Mayus Animation Overhaul and Bash Patch. Same thing about race just saying he's an Orc.

Current L/O is in the third post.

As said, double check the install of Robert's male. I'm using:

MaleBodyReplacerV4-14942.7z
Robert_Muscular_Stock_Clothing_and_Armor-14982.7z
Robert_Muscular_OOO_Armor-14984.7z
Robert_Muscular_MMM_Armor-15096.7z

You could also try FormID Finder or RefScope on the NPCs and see what turns up there.

EDIT: Also, double check the install of Race Balancing Project, but I guess its cosmetics don't affect vanilla races? Was a while ago I used it.

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:05 am

Checked RBP and there's no mismatches on non of the installations, Roberts, that's 1 of I think 3-4 mods I installed via OBMM so should I un-install and reinstall it through OBMM or manually drop the texture files in for the Wood Elf and Orc?

Also the install you have for it is the same as mine but I'm also using Robert_Muscular_Fran_Armor...is that not a required part of the ''muscular set'' ??