Hey, I'm having a little snag with a mod I'm creating and would appreciate any help.

I have, so far, been able to give dragons the Unrelenting Force and Dismay shouts - by creating duplicates of the originals (Effect, Spell, Shout) and tweaking . However, The dragons seem to only want use one or the other...never both. Separately, both shouts work, but together - only one is used - if that makes sense.

Anybody know what the reasoning could be behind this?

The shouts are set to use the worddragonfire words and the spell / effects are essentially the same as original.

Another issue, which would be amazing to solve - is creating an area of effect shout for dragons to use.

I've made several variants...but all result in the Dragon doing nothing (All other attacks removed to ensure the Dragon was to use only this shout).

I tried taking the Werewolf Howl and Nord Battle Cry as bases, and duplicating / creating them with dragonwordfire shouts, but neither way seems to work for me. Is it just that dragon's can't use shouts that are delivered via "self" ?

Any help would be amazing...and please excuse the ramblings...I'm very tired!

Thanks,

Kenomica.

I'm far from an expert but could you force them to use both trough scripting? I mean; they only get one shout then the script points to what happens next and that is determined by a random number generator or a pseudorandomization (base the choice on a variable that changes frequently).

Thanks for the reply. I must admit, scripting is the one thing I haven't touched yet - and I'm rather reluctant to (I know I will HAVE to eventually though hehe) - so that went over my head a little.

The main issue is that dragon's should be able to use more than one shout. The breath and fireballs are both shouts (technically) as well as my custom...that makes three. So I'm unsure if it's the shouts I have created that maybe clash with each other; yet have no idea how. That, and the strange problem of any skill that seems to be delivered via self (as in non targeted skills - like AoEs) do not seem to work.)

Thanks for the reply. I'll definitely look up some papyrus scripts / crack open the ones in the CK