Hidden valley;Has anyone actually helped Hardin take over?

Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:15 pm

Having handed evidence over to hardin at various stages of the quest (I read somewhere always do the filters etc first, tried that most recently, no joy), it still always ends in a dead ended stalemate?
Is it me or is this quest just bugged?
If you got Hardin to take over, please explain to me exactly how you did it! Thanks in advance for any help.
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sarah taylor
 
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:06 am

I have helped Hardin take over, and it worked out flawlessly for me. However, I don't recall how I did since that was about 100 hours of gameplay ago. Sorry. :(

Although, I think I helped Hardin get the things needed, I then gave McNamara what he wanted, spoke with Hardin after, and it worked well. Not sure if that is exactly how I did it though.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:01 pm

You need to do the quest from McNamara to get the holodisks from the patrols.

You also need to ask Ramos to give you access to the records.

And you need to help the Scribe catch the virus (need high science for this one, no other way around it that I know of)

Once you trap the virus, you can check any of the consoles for info about the BoS, including the code.

You tell Hardin that McNamara jumped the code (chain of command) by giving the patrols specific orders without sending the orders through him.

Hardin replaces McNamara.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:12 pm

I think Hardin's haircut is the real problem here.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:15 am

There are several quests you can do for McNamara, so you don't want to replace him too soon :D
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:02 am

he got replaced half way through the quests he gave me,but still had the end quest dialoge from him as he slaved away in the research/repairs room.

was nice to see the mighty fall and end up as a dogsbody :wink_smile:
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:07 am

You need to do the quest from McNamara to get the holodisks from the patrols.

You also need to ask Ramos to give you access to the records.

And you need to help the Scribe catch the virus (need high science for this one, no other way around it that I know of)

Once you trap the virus, you can check any of the consoles for info about the BoS, including the code.

You tell Hardin that McNamara jumped the code (chain of command) by giving the patrols specific orders without sending the orders through him.

Hardin replaces McNamara.



It must be bugged somehow for me then.I did the same things you did, although not in the same order.I did the computer virus first, then went out and obtained the patrol disks.I then had a quest to speak with some scouts, completed that (saved) then handed over evidence to Hardin.That resulted in a never completed leadership challenge.
I read on wiki that you should do the filtration quest first to stop a dead-end, so I reloaded and went about it that way, handed in the filtration parts, then spoke with Hardin.Still the same dead end.
It was so much easier on my legion playthrough, when I just slaughtered everyone, then blew up the bunker.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:45 am

Well, I helped Hardin to take over but I think that I caused a bug.

I did the quests for McNamara including to bring the vault stuff, then got about 1000exp for completing the quest. Then I went to Hardin and told him that McNamara ordered Hardin's troopers to go out and do some things. I think, there was a holo-file right next to each dead group. Then he said "That's it" and wanted to take over. I got another 1100exp but he hasn't taken over, yet.

I don't know what's going on, but I helped Hardin on another save as soon as I could to see what will happen and the "take over" only took a few days. Now my save is with the solution you read above and the "take over" isn't done... And weeks have gone allready.


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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:28 am

It helps to go out & buy the F:NV guide.

Anyway to surmise what needs to be done:

1) Get the "Still In The Dark" quest & when you have you're first task from McNamara (find the dead patrols), go talk to Hardin.
2) Talk to Scribe Ibsen & help him catch & contain the virus.
3) Talk to Paladin Ramos (He will unlock higher clearance information for the terminals).
4) Return to Scribe Ibsen & check the terminals for information on "Chains That Bind".
5) Talk to Paladin Ramos about it.
6) Return to Hardin & inform him that the CTB rules stipulate that you cannot bypass ranks & give orders to your subordinates subordinates & tell him what you're task is.
7) Complete McNamara's task.
8) Hand the evidence over to Hardin then McNamara. (Must be Hardin first).
9) Get task two from McNamara & inform Hardin of it.
10) Complete the task then return & tell Hardin then McNamara. (Same as point 8)
11) Get the third & final task from McNamara.
12) Inform Hardin who is shocked & agrees with McNamara that the bunker is in trouble.
13) Now this part is crucial, Talk to Paladin Ramos & tell him you have evidence that McNamara has put the chapter in danger & covered it up. (He say's that if it's true, he will change his vote to support Hardin instead of McNamara.
14) Complete the final task.
15) Return to Hardin & he informs you the takeover will take a few days. Return later & presto he should be in charge.

This method has worked all 3 times I've completed this quest (On 3 different toons) so if it doesn't work for you then you're bugged.

Good Luck <3.
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:31 pm

There are several quests you can do for McNamara, so you don't want to replace him too soon :D

Actually doing those quests can bug the take over.

Keep in mind, if you plan to ally with he NCR later you DON'T want a change in management.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:07 am

It helps to go out & buy the F:NV guide.

Anyway to surmise what needs to be done:

1) Get the "Still In The Dark" quest & when you have you're first task from McNamara (find the dead patrols), go talk to Hardin.
2) Talk to Scribe Ibsen & help him catch & contain the virus.
3) Talk to Paladin Ramos (He will unlock higher clearance information for the terminals).
4) Return to Scribe Ibsen & check the terminals for information on "Chains That Bind".
5) Talk to Paladin Ramos about it.
6) Return to Hardin & inform him that the CTB rules stipulate that you cannot bypass ranks & give orders to your subordinates subordinates & tell him what you're task is.
7) Complete McNamara's task.
8) Hand the evidence over to Hardin then McNamara. (Must be Hardin first).
9) Get task two from McNamara & inform Hardin of it.
10) Complete the task then return & tell Hardin then McNamara. (Same as point 8)
11) Get the third & final task from McNamara.
12) Inform Hardin who is shocked & agrees with McNamara that the bunker is in trouble.
13) Now this part is crucial, Talk to Paladin Ramos & tell him you have evidence that McNamara has put the chapter in danger & covered it up. (He say's that if it's true, he will change his vote to support Hardin instead of McNamara.
14) Complete the final task.
15) Return to Hardin & he informs you the takeover will take a few days. Return later & presto he should be in charge.

This method has worked all 3 times I've completed this quest (On 3 different toons) so if it doesn't work for you then you're bugged.

Good Luck <3.


I did it the same way, with the exception that I didn't have to speak to Ramos again. I DID, however, have to talk to Hardin again after telling him about the filtration problem. The first time I told him, he simply said that it was time to find a way to get rid of McNamara, but then after closing the dialog, I was able to talk to him again and there was a new dialog option which led into the 3 day wait.

Otherwise, my experience was the same.
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:51 pm

Having handed evidence over to hardin at various stages of the quest (I read somewhere always do the filters etc first, tried that most recently, no joy), it still always ends in a dead ended stalemate?
Is it me or is this quest just bugged?
If you got Hardin to take over, please explain to me exactly how you did it! Thanks in advance for any help.


I did all Macnamara's quests, bringing the evidence to Hardin every time. Completed all quests, and now every time I go back there, they are still stuck in there transition phase. It's been about a month in game. Just another stupid quest bug.
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:55 pm

I think Hardin's haircut is the real problem here.


He has hair?
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