Yeah right, How can I play evil in Skyrim? Thisfar I've always played the good guy but I want something else hehe. I know pickpocketing,stealing and murdering can be seen as evil but is there any more?

Dark Brotherhood, pretty mich every Daedric quest and arguably the Thieves Guild.

The problem that I encountered when I tried to play "evil" is that in Skyrim there really aren't much in the way of consequences. In Oblivion if you joined the DB or the Thieve's Guild you gained infamy points and folks would start to pick up on your negative "vibe" and treat you accordingly. I played a character in Oblivion that the infamy points caused random NPC's to attack me without provocaton.

Skyrim...Head of the Dark Brotherhood and the Thieve's Guild and yet the townsfolk love me. But it's cool. I don't want Bethesda to "fix" it in 1.6. I know I'm evil and that's all that matters.

Very easily, you don't even need to join anything - it also depends on what you mean by evil, do you mean lawful evil, neutral evil, chaotic evil, or even chaotic neutral...?

Would it matter if you have a high sneak and archery skill?

I killed the preacher in Whiterun and also Nazeem on a save, a beautiful arrow in his back. But I wasn't noticed, so I guess it doesn't count. Reloaded after that, but it felt good atm

Would it matter?
Depends on if you want to RP the game, or just play it.
Depends on how immersive you want the experience to be. For me I just log on and let Niamh do her thing. It's not a question of noticing or of statistics or level, it's a fact of who she is.

I hated that in Oblivion. What was the point to be a master thief that could steal anything without anybody ever seeing you, of doing kills so well hidden it just felt like the victim died on the spot with no reasons, only to have everyone in the world hate you because of some kind of spider sense or something.

Exactly mordy if your a master of death and kill with no witnesses. How should everybody be able to know what you do??

But to op possibly take up necromancy? As its more viable in skyrim than oblivion.

shoot random adventurers in the knees.... ruins their whole career...

or steal some sweetrolls...

Get to know a young lady named Eola

Let Alduin win.

I have been planning my truly evil character as I go along with these other, nicer characters. Should be fun. There's going to be a serial killer on the loose in Skyrim.

Just start killing people the second you leave the cave. Try and run up your bounty in whiterun to 50k+, then move on to start pillaging the next town.

Taking candy from little children...

From Oblivion, I've learned that I often have to start a new character to be evil (unless I'm just an adventurer, with no RP). Later on, I can find redemption and do the good quests.

I have two evil characters, but only using one. The first was a straight up Nord warrior, but after becoming so powerful and decked out with Daedric equipment, started dabbling in conjuration because he reached the pinnacle of physical power. Now he's a overpowered demon accompanied by two permanent storm atronachs. I had to retire him because he wasn't stealthy enough for DB or TG, and there wasn't much else to do besides killing spree.

Now I have a rogue, with most thief skills, one handed and illusion. Since I've done so little combat and my other skills are leveled so high, it's actually getting kind of hard, and I have to run away sometimes, which is even worse for my light armor and 1h skills.


You know what, just get the ebony blade, some people say it's under powered but if you're really evil you'll be just fine.

I tried it because it is out of my rp-char and I could kill them both, with nothing going against me or even getting unfamy-points.

So I guess, killing someone NOT as a quest-related thing, nothing happens. Not getting caught, I didn't do it.

And as I do RP, I reloaded and didn't kill Nazeem.

Therefore, being evil in the game, you either have to be caught in the act to get some unfamy points or being related to
a quest, that also can catch you. Sounds trickier even, if you get caught alot and have to spend in prison, what happens
to those unfamy points?

If you're just playing it to get points from the game, or trigger an event that's different.
If you really RP a character it shouldn't and doesn't matter about what events you trigger and what points you get or don't get.
It should be about BEING that character - what would that character do?

And if you were RP'ing it you wouldn't be reloading...

Being evil is easy. Being good is hard...

It's not that hard to figure out, that a mass of posts declaring Nazeem and the preacher the most annoying NPC's in the game, just wanted
me to see what happens? Nothing happened and started over from the "the experiment".

I thought it was interesting to find out that you get NO penalty for killing innocent victims, when not caught. I would never know IRL or in this char
that nothing happens. So it was more like figuring out the game mechanichs. Which are not 100% right now.

I'm not really abusing anything here, just to have a look: What would happen if? There is nothing in any manuals that describes this event and
I'm still not very much wiser.

But me, interrupting a nice game for a check on "whatcanIdoordon't" has nothing to do to my RPG. Not exactly chasing achievement here. Only to
find some logic in between turns.

And my char is still the good guy, even in mind, so that was just a bad dream!

I think we are talking at cross-purposes, so never mind.

I'm the same with my main character.

I always make a second (and third in case of Skyrim) characters designed just to play the Dark Brotherhood / Thieves Guild quests.

I did the same on Oblivion. In Oblivion I made a Bosmer in Elven armor (with red mythic dawn hood as it went well with armor).

For Skyrim, I've made a Dunmer assassin for the DB and a Khajiit for the TG.

Could you so kindly express that in a way so I understand? English is not my native language.

Whatever happened that day, My char won't abuse it as he doesn't know.

In MY mind, the game can be so abused so it's not funny anymore. But my sneaky archer is a sneaky archer, but
not tempted to even find the DH. He saves every note from Astrid and I think I have around 7 now.

"Failure is NOT an option." Yeah right

To put it another way: we are both talking about the same point in a different way. We are coming at it from 2 different directions. We are looking at it from 2 different points of view. The answer you want is not the answer I am giving, even though it's valid in the context of your question.

Right, explore the game for it's worth

or

explore the game for it's unworthiness.

I'm getting the point, But that little experiment didn't change my path ot anything, But maybe next char won't even find it weird.

There's murder, then there is murder with black soul gems. There is also Fury; why go to the effort of killing an annoying peasant yourself, when you can get them to attack a town full of guards? While laughing from the shadows, of course.