Tired of trying to sell a crap-ton of lets say swords and/or armor, going to multiple blacksmiths, Pawn shops got you pissed.

OK I don't know if this is a known "cheat" since I try to stay away from this section .....no offense guys

Anyway.......... sell all you can to drain the vendors gold supply, save game, exit out of game, and restart game and load your save, and tada said vendor has a full gold supply again.


wolf

It would be considered an exploit as you're abusing the game mechanics to get unintended results. Helpful for non PC gamers who can't use the console to add gold to the merchant.

Is it really an exploit...? I mean, that takes just a hair less time than simply waiting 48 hours for the vendor to restock.

Once the CK is out I will mod it myself. I really don't use console commands.....exceptions, tcl, an tm

Sorry, but I don't see how anything he chooses to do in his own solo game can be denigrated as an exploit. Now if he's in multiplayer, it's different. But really, snarling at people for whatever they choose to do on their own private machine, solo-player, is just being snarky for no reason.

[Oh, and wolf.... There's a mod available which gives each vendor either 2k or 10k gold. Infinitely easier than mutzing about....]

Being soloplayer doesn't stop it being an exploit.

Who was snarling? He mentioned he didn't know if it was a cheat as he didn't visit the boards, I gave my opinion on wether it was or not.

Being soloplayer means there is no exploit. Exploit is something that people do to gain whatever benefit over other players in MMORPGs - you can't exploit a game that only you are playing. You can cheapen the game for yourself, I suppose - but still, it's simply up to each person who plays a solo game whether that's important or not.

I suppose "snarling" was the wrong word. It's hard to parse tone from words on a screen, and it's late here so I'm not maybe getting my mental "thesaurus" together. It seemed as if you were denigrating the person for even asking, not to mention if s/he really WAS "cheating".

thanks for the tip wolf.
but i already have investor perk and invested with riverwood trader

I think it's just faster to wait a day. Or is it a day and an hour?

Your definition of exploit ≠ general accepted definition of exploit.

That said, it is true that nobody cares and everyone can shut up because waiting 48 hours does the same thing.

So, shut up. Good lord.

Yeah well exploit or not they put way too little gold on the merchants for the loot I can sell off from large dungeons. Anywhere from $500 to $1500 each doesn't cut it when you are selling glass and ebony items, especially if they are enchanted items. Yeah you can waste perk points on speech to get to invest, but that is 3 or so points I could invest in combat or stealth.

I have never understood the reasoning behind patching exploits in a single player game. Leave the choices to players, the devs have taken enough of our choices away as it is now. The devs need to stop treating TES like it is an MMO. Yeah I can choose to exploit a money glitch or choose not too. But it isn't like I can go sell billions in gold online like people do for MMOs and make a RL profit from it.

No problem, glad to help.

It can also be helpful if you use merchants in a hold/city where you've done tons of quests and pretty much helped everyone there. Doing favor quests and helping out the citizens of a hold has an noticeable effect on most of the resident merchants gold reserves related to how much questing you've done there. In solitude for example most of the merchants have upwards of 2-3 thousand gold and there are a bunch very close to each other.

As to the strange idea that this isn't an exploit because its a single player game, I think someone is conflating meaning of the term with the context they might just be used to hearing it in. Its similar to how cheating in a game by using developer codes or a trainer is still cheating regardless of whether or not you're playing it with or against other people. Taking an unintended advantage from intentional manipulation of an oversight or flaw in the game mechanics is "exploiting" that game mechanic and the method could be referred to more concisely as an "exploit."

Were this a multiplayer game the term "exploit" would carry a far more negative and harsh connotation. That is not the context in which it is being used and so that connotation and the implications you may be familiar with are not relevant. Referring to it as such does not inherently imply condescension or "denigration" just as calling a console code which enables "god mode" a cheat code does not malign those who use them. Sure its a generally negative term, because it refers to bypassing or breaking the normal rules of the game. Comparatively, the term "exploit" is actually a less negative term because it refers to the manipulation of existing mechanics, rules, and game-play rather than an out-right bypassing or alteration of them.

In the context it is being used, it is a misunderstanding for one to take umbrage at it. No offense was intended by its use nor is it reasonable to ascribe context and connotation that it did not have. Also, as has been pointed out, this is a comparatively minor exploit and one used more for convenience and speed than for exceptional player advantage since waiting 48 hours will normally accomplish the same thing.

all you have to do is:

open console
click the merchant
type additem 000000f 10000

then bam, they have 10k gold

this is as much an exploit as it would be to wait for a certain game time or sleep.. it just takes time to do.

Of you could just type additem f 10000

I'm playing on console, and it's aggravating how little gold they gave merchants. The gold they get doesn't cover a single enchanted item from a higher level dungeon. Then they make the house in Solitude cost 30k with upgrades. Having to wait 48 hours and bounce between a dozen merchants is s total pain in the ass. Those perks I've now dumped into speech to get investment could have been better spent somewhere else.

I remember there is a mod for this but I currently dont remember the mod name find at the skyrimnexus.com

Exactly! This game is screaming for a mudcrab for the console players! The MOST ANY vendor has in my game is 1,100 gold. I have to actually buy stuff first, if I want to sell an item worth more than that. And yet, training, can cost you over 6,000 gold for a quick round of 5 from any decent level trainer. I can acquire tons of valuable loot, just can't sell it.

An exploit is defined as taking advantage of something unintended within the game mechanics. It doesn't matter if its a solo game or multiplayer game. You delusion that somehow MMOs defined what the word means is silly. Yes, this doesn't effect you or I if someone decides to do it, but to argue that it isn't an exploit, then by that definition, there is no such thing as cheating in single player games.

It is not standard game play, thus it is either a cheat or an exploit. Simple as that.

that console command thing doesn't work and neither does saving and exiting anyone know of anything else lol

I'm on PC so maybe it's just for PC but when you save and exit make sure you exit back to desktop an then restart.....the game loads really fast for me less than 30 seconds.

An exploit is an exploit....using something youre not meant to use to gain an unfair advantage doesnt matter whether its a single player or MMO

HOWEVER not sure restarting after loading the game is an exploit because its not a bug. If for example you use a game bug which isnt meant to be there. A hole in a faulty mesh to hide where an NPC cant get into
THEY ARE exploits
Something outside of normal boundaries you wouldnt normally have access to...

so pc users adding gold isnt exploiting ??

As waiting a day brings the same result as this, I can hardly call it exploit. More a shortcut.