So i thought it through and thought to share it to the community board of Skyrim. Recently, we have heard news of DLC brainstorm idea spillouts over the web.

Seeing that a perk tree has been spoken of for werewolves, we might as well have a vampire tree. But more so, to the bottom line, we should have a quest line between Vampire and Werewolf.
Ever watch Underworld? If so, you know where I'm going with this.

Different story lines, the werewolves and vampires in Skyrim has recently been noticed, unlike morrowind and oblivion. In thought, I think they should have a war like story line between the two cults.

So if you're a vampire, you are notified to travel across Skyrim to a small domain coven, to where vampires thrive as home or if you're a werewolf, you are notified (Unsure if it should be by letter or should be by companion. If companion, you have to beat the companion quest.) to travel to the domain coven of the werewolves.

As the player reach their destination and listen to a story of an ancient secret war between vampires and werewolves, depending on what you are, you are told that you're going to war against the cult. Your goal is to exterminate the entire coven (If vampire, that may include killing off all the companions. Which may lead to fail if you didn't finish the quest line.)

The quest line's length would be like the civil war quest lines length. Throughout the quest, you are given items/weapons as rewards, gold, fame, new followers, new possible marriages, and the right to use the perk tree of the werewolf or the vampire.

I thought this would be a neat idea. I was thinking about the war between the Imperial/Stormcloaks and the Thalmor, but something tells me that is already in the works, seeing that Beth left a major gap in the ending of one of the two sides near the end.

Discuss and extra ideas.

To be honest, I'm really starting to get sick of the vampire/werewolf pop culture crap. Twilight has destroyed that which has built the vampire up to the point it was. True Blood goes in that same direction, but atleast it's interesting. Still, I simply don't understand the fascination with vampires in modern society. They took a blood svcking monster and somehow made it sixy and cool and now it's everywhere. It's sickening really.

This isn't anything negative about your idea. I honestly do like the cival war idea and would like to see it used more but not with vampires. I do think vampires need a clan to join or something though. They were obviously overlooked in the game's design. I just don't think we need a war between vampires and werewolves like every other book or movie that has the 2 together in the story.

Nice idea but wouldn't suit well for people that prefer being neither and thus blame Bethesda for creating dlc that they wouldn't play. But still, a nice idea, especially about wiping out the companions.

Thanks I just put some thought into it and thought it would be a neat idea for DLC.

Werewolves are underpowered and confusing to perfect. Seriously, I made a kajiit to be a perfect werewolf and in previous versions of Skyrim the better your light armor the better your armor rating is in beastmode, but now it counts as unarmored? There needs to be a werewolf perk tree. Seriously.

Love this idea, only as long as it's better than the Civil War questline.

Agree

Vampires Vs Werewolves?? Am I reading this correctly? And can no one get it right that they are LYCANS not WEREWOLVES.... Werewolves are savage beasts who have lost all sense of humanity and is always in a state of beast form. A Lycan on the other hand has kept their humanity and has the ability to transform into a beast.

I dont like the idea of vampire vs. Lycans simply because what quarrel do they have againts eachother? This is Elder Scrolls not twilight or Underwold. If anything they should be working together because they are both creatures that are despised by the rest of the world.

They both need Perk Trees, Both need Jumping Height raised. That's one thing I loved about Oblivion is that being a Vampire improved your jumping height and stealth. But in Skyrim it is terrible

I guess the real question is whether I'd choose Team Jacob or Team Edward. They're both so sixy in their own way. On the one hand, I love the rugged "manliness" of Jacob. But on the other hand, Edward sparkles.

Decisions, decisions!

I agree. As a DLC or anything it would be hard to justify from a lore perspective.
Werewolves are the creation of Hircine, daedric prince of the hunt and Vampires are a result of Molag Bal, the prince of..... bad things, yet he has no control of them whatsoever.

Theres just no reason why the two would clash, or that a bunch of Vampires would team up specifically for the reason of fighting werewolves, unless they want to be a supernatural version of the Vigillants of Stendarr, which would be even more hypocritical than the Vigillants themselves.

(Also, I am refering to them as werewolves based off what they are called in game, but from a technical standpoint, I agree that they should be called Lycans as well.)

Because the important thing when dealing with completely made-up creatures is that we're up on their biological classification.

I really love the fantasy genre, but I cannot comprehend the mindset that makes people want to force everything in the genre into some kind of strict formalism.

I honestly think this whole vampires vs werewolves thing has been done to death. Especially lately. I'd say maybe in the next game, in 6 years so the fad is able to blow over for a while.

No thanks
I'm bored of this tired passe vampire vs. werewolf thing
If there was a time to do it then it was when Oblivion came out when it was relatively fresh and not the cliche it is now
Besides which it has no basis in TES lore

Ha, no it's mainly to keep the guy I quoted off my throat, not some form of OCD.
Yes, some people do take it too far, but I'm not one of them. Please do not make assuptions.

actually, werewolves in TES are mindless savage beasts, i dont know what happend with skyrim but it is a poor representation of established lore, they are, usually, mindless because of the bloodlust of the beast so they do not have the capacity to wage war on anything, not to mention they rarely get together in packs (iv never heard of it happening but some people on the forums said it happend twice) and even when they do they cannot control who they kill unless the leader has the ring of hircine. vampries, on the other hand, are in clans and activly hate each other, no way would The Order fight along side the volkneir for any reason, not to mention all vamires are either masters of consealing thmselves in society (The Order and a valenwood tribe does this with families), paranoid and living with only thier allies/living alone (volkneir), keep a lowprofile in black marsh (whet-fang) or can turn into mist effectivly making them uncatchable by savage beast like werewolves (one of the valenwood tribes)

***team lucien, death to the vampires!!

I would just like there to be more meat to vampires in general.

My bro stopped playing because he became a vampire and didn't realize what had happened. If there were more to it than it just being an annoying disease; it could be worthwhile.

I say, Just make an underworld game lol.

I rather have more Silver hand vs. werewolf then the usual, typical Vampires Vs. Werewolf [censored].

Why don't they just make you join the Vampire Clan and have a questline with that Clan? At least it'll give me a reason to become a Vampire before doing Companions...

I miss Morrowind's Vampire Clans.. I was a Quarra...

As for Werewolves, Perk Tree. We need badly. OR let us go to Solstheim for the 4th Era Bloodmoon so we have a Werewolf Questline again. Not 'new' but we know it's possible.

*reads thread title, throws up*

> and listen to a story of an ancient secret war between vampires and werewolves,

As Royal Sentinel stated, there's no basis for this in the TES universe, and Hircine and Molag Bal don't have any reason to instigate such a conflict. Molag Bal doesn't even have the means to do so in the case of his creations, and while Hircine could conceivably include an individual vampire among the prey when the Bloodmoon or another similar hunt occurs (a very rare event to begin with), he would only do so because that individual vampire was seen as worthy prey for some other reason; merely being a vampire wouldn't cut it.

It's possible that individuals might come into conflict (or cooperate) for reasons specific to them, but it'll be rare enough for a vampire and a werewolf to even encounter one another, much less have any cause to care about one another. (If the werewolf happened to be in beast form at the time then it probably would rip the vampire to pieces, but it wouldn't be anything personal - the werewolf would be doing the same to everyone it met in that state!)

Not really interested in Vampires vs Werewolves but i would like to see them improve some of the aspects of being a lycan (higher jumping etc)

What's the lore behind it? Vampire used Lycan as slaves and they are both a curse from some daedra? They might as well make a game called TES 5.5 The Underworld.

No thanks. There's only a limited amount of DLC Beth can do before moving on, I'd rather them do something a little more fresh, like a Thalmor DLC.