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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:07 am

I was speaking mostly of Skyrims lack of depth in that regard. Technically its fine. If a game with the scope Skyrim has was available with the level of detail it has ten years ago, then sure. But it was impossible.
From my experience, older games were deeper and more involving. If Morrowind had the depth of Skyrim, TES wouldn't be where it is today. Purely IMO.

Refer once again to the man's last paragraph. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:43 am

This is so absolutely true and a point I've been making to the True RPG FansTM on this site. The Nostalgia Effect can really cloud one's vision. It's insanity, I tell you!

To elaborate one what I said. As a game, Skyrim brings little to the table. It doesn't really do anything that hasn't been done somewhere some how before. It doesn't even do what the previous titles did well.
It has a beautifully designed world...
Okay... that's about it. It's a supermodel (in open world RPG terms) with the personality of a tree day dead trout.

Refer once again to the man's last paragraph. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

No, I just disagree with you...
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:53 am

To elaborate one what I said. As a game, Skyrim brings little to the table. It doesn't really do anything that hasn't been done somewhere some how before. It doesn't even do what the previous titles did well.
It has a beautifully designed world...
Okay... that's about it. It's a supermodel (in open world RPG terms) with the personality of a tree day dead trout.



No, I just disagree with you...

Cool, there are other games out there. Lates.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:12 am

Cool, there are other games out there. Lates.

Why is this so typical of people who feel the need to defend a game to the hilt?
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:36 am


It has a beautifully designed world...
Okay... that's about it. It's a supermodel (in open world RPG terms) with the personality of a tree day dead trout.

I disagree, Skyrim does not lack personality... this supermodel has the looks, the personality (atmosphere, art style, music), what she lacks is rather on the technical side (knowledge - skills, attributes, quest variation, dialogue trees, maneingful choices....) I think the unique character is there and it's pretty strong.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:25 pm

I disagree, Skyrim does not lack personality... this supermodel has the looks, the personality (atmosphere, art style, music), what she lacks is rather on the technical side (knowledge - skills, attributes, quest variation, dialogue trees, maneingful choices....) I think the unique character is there and it's pretty strong.

See I consider the skills, quests variation, dialogue and meaningful choices as well as the atmosphere to be apart of the "personality"
The technical side of things being what is is physically capable of presenting on the screen.

Again, just my opinion.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:23 pm

It's a supermodel (in open world RPG terms) with the personality of a tree day dead trout.

But all those who "dispraise" that supermodel "personality" wants to go to bed with her "in private" strangely... :biggrin: and still continue to dispraise her in public... :bunny:

Who have decided that Skyrim is an Rpg by the way ? for me its a simple action/adventure with some Rpg element. Fallout New Vegas was a "not so open world" Rpg perhaps...lets judge this supermodel when she will have all the "make-up" applied at least (Dlcs)

make -up in terms of this videogame of course -in this case i mean an internal "maquillage"... :biggrin:

Another opinion,you see..
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:54 am

Yeah... See I've no hidden agenda.
I've no secret lust.

It is what it is. Some people fill in the blanks with mind play and while that's alright for those who are willing, it doesn't excuse what is lacking in reality.

The assumption is that Skyrim is an RPG, because it is a title within The Elder Scrolls series.

If The Fellowship of the Ring was fantasy novel and the Two Towers a mills and boon spec' novel I'm fairly sure there would be something said.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:45 am

What reality ? yours ? :down: only because someone don't agree with you this doesn't automatically means that he/she is wrong.

Its called maturity and respect for someone else opinion,you see. You can't call "reality" your personal thoughts.

I don't understand the part about "hidden agenda" and "secret lust" however,sorry. If you can explain it better perhaps... :smile:

Edit on your last thoughts : an assumption can't be objective; Fellowship of the rings have nothing to do with Skyrim/Tes,apart from some understandable similarity of course -but again no one can say that Skyrim is a pure Rpg,neither what an Rpg could be - if it would be so for someone..its another assumption not written/confirmed anywhere.

And consider that even the "classical Rpg mechanics" could change and evolve -or involve according to someone - in something else as time passes.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:41 am

You used the sleeping with a supermodel anology. I replied " I've no secret lust". If that isn't clear, then well I don't know what to say.

Reality is reality. What happens for me and you and everyone else.
Mind play is not reality, Mind play is something you do inside your head. Mind play is something people do to add features and events to games to make them feel more fulfilling. There is nothing wrong with this. But it does not excuse the short comings that are still prevalent in reality.
When a game like Skyrim needs more mind play (a lot more - to the point where the world is almost void) then any previous title, it is lacking.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:07 pm

But all those who "dispraise" that supermodel "personality" wants to go to bed with her "in private" strangely... :biggrin: and still continue to dispraise her in public... :bunny:

To carry that anology on, they may want to bed her, but certainly not spend the rest of their lives with her. They're good for a quick fling, and that's about it.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:32 am

To carry that anology on, they may want to bed her, but certainly not spend the rest of their lives with her. They're good for a quick fling, and that's about it.

That's another good way to put it.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:31 am

Moo cow. Moo? cow supplier of milk, I am intolerant of yer lactose.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:00 pm

Why is this so typical of people who feel the need to defend a game to the hilt?

It's not a defense of the game. I'm sorry the statement went gliding over your head so quickly. I'll be kind and let you try to figure it out though... like a Chinese puzzle.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:19 pm

It's not a defense of the game. I'm sorry the statement went gliding over your head so quickly. I'll be kind and let you try to figure it out though... like a Chinese puzzle.


Nothing you say makes much sense.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:05 am

Moo cow. Moo? cow supplier of milk, I am intolerant of yer lactose.

I like this... or picture some really massive guys perpetually dining at a restaurant, their hairy bellies protuding through their buttoned-down shirt that's stained with sauce, screaming at the waiter while chunks of food and sauce spew from their stuffed mouths, "Waiter... I hate this food... hurry up and deliver the next plate... I hate it, it's disgusting... ... WAITER!!!"

P.S. There are different kinds of milk for the lactose intolerant.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:41 am

Nothing you say makes much sense.

Put the puzzle down so soon? Makes sense. It was an easy puzzle.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:50 am

Skyrim is by far one of the best games I've played. I got the game on lanuch day in the UK so I understand and expected a few bugs. The bugs that I found were only annoying nothing game breaking. I found the bookshelf bug and the lag for about 3 secounds.

I've got a Nord, Khajiit, Dark Elf and a Redguard characters and I'm still having fun. Beth did a great job so I don't agree with the people who find a few bugs and instantly start disrespecting Beth and Skyrim.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:52 am

Whether you decide to listen to reviewers from a well known gaming site or the opinions of some anonymous unknown on a gaming forum is up to the individual. However, this topic has not gone well, too may snarky remarks which are aimed at other members. I am giving this topic a rest for a long time.
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