I just can't decide!

Post » Tue May 29, 2012 3:36 pm

everyone like paarthy and not the blades because the blades are not the noble warriors they were in Oblivion. Face it guys, Paarth has to fight his insticts all the time just to keep from being like the others. better to save him from himself, end his struggle by the sword.

plus dragons are immortal, the only way for them to die is by the sword. they do not need eggs as they do not think they can be killed except by a dragonborn.
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 8:15 pm

I was able to give them recruits as soon I finished Alduin's Wall, and dragon hunt for some reason. So I just used the console to finish the quest and didn't even have to harm Master Paarthurnax.


When u finished the quest thru console, where was Parrthurnax after that? Was he still alive? The reason i am asking this, is that it is possible that the console script simply killed him for u to finish the quest, but if he is still ALIVE then that means there is a way to finish the quest without killing him, that we could try to discover? :)
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 8:58 pm

I'd like to start my own rival faction of the Blades to put those other two in their place. Those two frustrate me. I helped them find their temple, and their attitude towards me unless I do their bidding is reprehensible.

It was kind of funny at the end after beating the main quest. One minute Delphine sounded so happy to see me alive, then the very next conversation she insisted that we have nothing to talk about until I go get Parth.

Bah

Well then along with the Blades, Delphine also is almost as much of a traitor to u, as she wants u to be to Parrthurnax, so it is their loss if they can not talk to the Dragonborn anymore. ;)

U know i am just curious, since it was the Imperials who disrespected the Nord's native religion in Skyrim by outlawing Talos (also one of the straws that broke the camel's back, so to speak, contributing to the Nord's need to rebel against the disrespectful Imperial rule) do u think it makes any difference how this plays out with those wanting u to kill Parrthurnax which side u chose in the civil war? If u are playing a Nord and u fought for the Imperials, against the freedom of your own people and your own birthplace, wouldn't u have to struggle with your identity and inborn tendencies even more so than Parrthurnax who must keep his primal instincts in check? Could asking u to betray Parrthurnax be a test of whether or not u will betray unto death those who truly most mentored and helped raise u to be Dragonborn, such as Parrthurnax did? Does it have any effect on whether to kill him or not whether u betrayed Skyrim and your own kind before, and whether or not u were Stormcloak or Imperial bound in the war? Were u an Imperial or a Stormcloak? And if who u fought for in the war does or does not have any effect, should it? ;)
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 2:44 am

Killing him will prevent you from changing mediation powers. From a power gaming point of view, not killing him has more benefit in the long run as the Beards and The Courier can give you hints to the next word wall as well.


Great points! :) i do not want to kill Parrthurnax either! Thanx!
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 12:42 pm

While the Blades were total morons in Oblivion, they however were willing to listen to reason and see that reason. The Blades were hunted down and disbanned from the Emperor's service, there is only a few left. Since 200 years have past The Blades have gone downhill and have become more ruthless and well evil. They no longer listen to reason and only wish to rush in blind.

They only saw the Dragon's past wrongs and did not bother to see all the good he has done to try and make up for it. I do not believe in punishing or killing those who try or are better then whatever shell of evil they once were. The Blades once protected Emperors who were considered "evil" or "insane" but this did not stop them from doing their duty.

So no, I refused to kill Parthonex, The Blades, gave very little reason to end his existence, refused to listen to reason in given him a second chance and could do very little for me. Dragonborn's do not need protection, they need guidance and training. That is what the Greybeards did and the dragon, without that guidance and training, I doubt very much a Dragonborn would have been as successful in defeating Alduin.


Well said! :) i will not betray Parrthurnax either!
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 11:44 pm

what good has he done though, sit on a mountain help the dragonborn and lead the greaybeards who do not talk to many others? to me that is being a hermit and to anything to being a real good guy.

still good point even though i do not plan to let them help with their "meditations"

not trusting either sides, but will let the old dragon sleep or whatever he will do after the game, but will keep an eye on both sides.
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 7:55 pm

what would Talos (Tiber Septim) do ? . . . or rather what did he do ? because you can work that out from the situation . . .

There wern't any dragons left when tiber septim lived. The dragons existed way back in the 1st era of tamriel. Tiber Septim lived at the turning point of the 2nd and 3rd era (He actually created the 3rd era, by conquering all Tamriel creating a paradigm shift to one where the empire ruled everything, ending in the oblivion crisis)
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 4:50 pm

When u finished the quest thru console, where was Parrthurnax after that? Was he still alive? The reason i am asking this, is that it is possible that the console script simply killed him for u to finish the quest, but if he is still ALIVE then that means there is a way to finish the quest without killing him, that we could try to discover? :)

He was still alive. When I visited him just now, he was sitting on that word wall at the Throat of the World. There were only 2 speech options though, one to meditate and one to tell him the Blades want him dead.

I used this command: setstage MQPaarthurnax 50, then I told Delphine or Esbern that I killed him. You can test this, just save first! Check this page for more details: http://uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Paarthurnax
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 11:04 pm

When I found this post it had 666 views.
It's a sign.
Paarthunax must die.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 2:09 am

Considering that the Blades have protected emperors who have most likely slaughtered more people in the past while conquering Tamriel than Paarthurnax... I think they're just as responsible.
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 1:16 pm

they protected the septim line, which had both bad and good apples on the tree. Paarthurnax probably wants to save dragons from mortals, at least that is what i get when reading that if he lives, he supposedly goes to teach other Dovah the way of the voice, which most likely benefits dragons as they would not be forced to fight mortals and get killed, mortals do not benefit as the dragons still live.
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