My Little Pony:Its always the stallion's fault...

Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:36 pm

I don't know if its just me, but whenever I hear someone has relationship troubles, everyone automatically goes to the girl's side.
Not trying to start a flamewar, so please keep it civil.

The girl that lives under my Mom's apartment recently stabbed her boyfriend in the back (literally) while he slept.
He would have died if a neighbor hadn't called 911 when they heard "OH GOD CALL THE COPS!" coming from the guy.

The first thing everyone says when they hear that is "I wonder what the boyfriend did to deserve it?". Yet no one thinks the girl is at fault.
And in the opposite situation, no one would even think that the girlfriend was at fault for anything. They'd automatically think the guy is crazy.


Anyone have any input on this?


P.S. The women got charged with Attempted 2nd degree murder, if anyone wanted to know.

Oh yeah it's the girls fault no doubt about it----Just kidding :tongue:.
There's alot that can go with this story:
1: The woman has a really bad case of PMS (some women do have a problem controlling themselves when PMS hits, some but rairly they can become monsters).
2: More likely she caught her boyfriend cheating on her (this can push a woman over the edge).
3: Maybe the boyfriend was breaking up with her and she didn't take the news well (This can really push a woman over the edge).
4: Maybe the boyfriend was a controlling abusive jerk and he got what he deserve (You would not be surprised how alot of women get put behind bars due killing an abusive boyfriend or husband).
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:07 pm

On paper, maybe. In practice? http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1983185,00.html.

The article goes on to say that this is mainly because equally-educated women take lower-paying jobs and attempts to explain why that is (discrimination, feeling unwelcome etc.). However, they still have the right to choose higher-paying jobs (many do), therefore they have equal rights. I can't MAKE them choose higher-paying jobs but the opportunity is still there. A much more realistic issue than this IMO, is the fact that migrant workers (often more qualified) receive less pay, but let's not steer the discussion off-topic.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 9:42 am

I generally find the woman to be at fault directly and the male to be at fault indirectly in my life experiences and of those around me.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:52 pm

B/c men are suppose to be "honorable". We don't hit women. If a man harms a woman physically even prisoners in prisons get revenge.....it's just the way things are.

On the other hand if a woman physically harms a man other than a slap (and he didn't hit her first) then I think she is just as crazy. Why? B/c women know men can't hit them and thats not something you should take as an advantage.

Some men find comfort in that honor knowing that at any time any man could physically harm a woman.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 10:55 pm

On the humor side: of course it's always the guy's fault. :wink:

On the serious side: I don't know who "everyone" consists of, but when I hear of grievous injury cases like that, my first reaction is "violence solves nothing." ie, man or woman, it's their fault for letting their emotions/rage get the better of them, rather than, say, leaving, or whatever. Now, if the person in question is mentally ill (especially with known violent outbursts), and/or has a history of being abused to go with it, that should probably be taken into consideration in a trial/passing sentence. Just being female, however, doesn't auto-acquire any sympathy points with me.

If I think about the psychology of it, I'd guess it might have at least a little to do with the fact/media playup that serial killers are most often male, and domestic abuse/murder cases (reported/discovered ones) are usually the male, etc. So the public is kind of trained to look at the male first. Or something. Maybe.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 8:05 am

I think this goes back to the topic about people being judgmental. I don't really see a problem with off-handed comments from people who don't know the situation, the problem arises when they take it to the next level and start blaming/defending someone just because of their preconceived notions.
There's also a clique mentality that comes with being victimized or the perception of being victimized that can cause people to take sides based on things other than logic. I think it happens with men as well, but there's a societal stigma that oftentimes results in men being less vocal about being hurt and/or being encouraged to "svck it up, bro, don't be a wuss." I've seen this result in men having it out for women in a more passive/aggressive way, though.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 9:43 am

B/c men are suppose to be "honorable". We don't hit women. If a man harms a woman physically even prisoners in prisons get revenge.....it's just the way things are.


Right there... Women can beat the hell out of a man but hell if we go back and do it, we're gone forever :stare:

Don't say a girl beating on a guy won't hurt- I have seen quiet a few of huge women in my life, and well, if they wanted to they could probably tackle and knock me out :blink:
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:39 pm

B/c men are suppose to be "honorable". We don't hit women. If a man harms a woman physically even prisoners in prisons get revenge.....it's just the way things are.

On the other hand if a woman physically harms a man other than a slap (and he didn't hit her first) then I think she is just as crazy. Why? B/c women know men can't hit them and thats not something you should take as an advantage.

Some men find comfort in that honor knowing that at any time any man could physically harm a woman.

Crazy? Lol, someone who does that sounds more like a...well let's just say crazy isn't the term I'd use to describe it.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:54 pm

i like to make things simple until i hear more details. stabbing someone with a knife is wrong, so the person who does it is the bad one in my head :shrug:
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 9:12 am

Been married for a little over 30 years.
Get used to it fellas.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 2:50 am

oh, this old chestnut.

Life isnt fair for anyone for a myriad of reasons that all differ from person to person.
The sooner people realize this, the sooner we realize that we are all a part of the pendulum and not the direction it is swinging, We attempt to build communities with those of like suffered life afflictions, but all we really wind up doing is segregating ourselves and each other. all demanding. none giving. creating that opposite swing of the pendulum that we are all a part of. everyone must make concessions- but we live in a world where you can have it all and so it is demanded and even protested when "all" shockingly, cannot be had.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:30 pm

As a male I do agree with the general consensus on gender bias, but - I'm sure it must have been mentioned - maybe the women in question did have a legitimate greivence to stab the man in the back? I re-call you saying that she was convicted but never why she did it, people - regardless of gender - don't go around stabbing partners without a good reason presumably.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:28 pm

I've pretty much given up on trying to understand the human race as a whole. Underneath our veneer of "aren't we so awesome" intelligence, we're still animals. Maybe one day we'll actually outgrow that....but probably not any time soon.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 8:45 am

snip
Well-said.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:47 am

I always read up on the story and see who would be the bad person.

I've seen plenty of stupid, and very crazy, women in the world from reading news/etc. So I wont be surprise if the Woman in the relationship is doing something wrong but there is also a 50% chance of it being the male's fault.

So basicly, I don't take sides until I get info.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 8:54 am

Silly boys, woman are always right, you'll learn.

*women

Point proven. ;)
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 2:04 am

B/c men are suppose to be "honorable". We don't hit women. If a man harms a woman physically even prisoners in prisons get revenge.....it's just the way things are.

Uh---if a woman comes at he with a knife with the intent on harming me (chivalry aside) I have my right to defend myself :toughninja: .
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:08 pm

No, it goes both ways.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:07 am

Uh---if a woman comes at he with a knife with the intent on harming me (chivery aside) I have my right to defend myself :toughninja: .

I believe you meant chivalry, but otherwise I agree, anyone comes at me with a knife, I'll do my best to take them out. Permanently. :cool: Yippe kay yay [censored]! :lol:
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 4:05 am

My first thought at that story (for either six) would be that the attacker had some kind of mental illness, if the attack is described as completely unprovoked and out of the ordinary.

It's already a given that women are automatically out of their minds so that's why no one jumps to the conclusion that they are at fault.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 5:42 am

I don't try to try to put into words how much of a dichotomy relationships can be...you will wear yourself out if you think about it too much.
Just agree with your mate...then do the right thing.
Oh, and find a hobby or something...find your space, and let her have her...side of the house...and claim yours...and meet in middle every so often.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 8:23 am

It's already a given that women are automatically out of their minds so that's why no one jumps to the conclusion that they are at fault.

Of course. Silly me! She was probably just hysterical. Don't trust anything that bleeds for a week and doesn't die, I say.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:24 am

Women side with women because they're women.

Men side with women because they want to get laid.

Does it really have to be more complex than this?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:09 am

Women side with women because they're women.

Men side with women because they want to get laid.

Does it really have to be more complex than this?
Hopefully sometimes. I'd like to believe that people actually have the capacity to reason on occasion.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:48 pm

(Off-Topic) Am I the only guy who doesn't care about getting laid? I swear I feel like the only one sometimes.
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