mocking isn't the same as punching.


maybe the people who were asking about hot topics in a thread a few days ago would be in favor of no post limits per thread :shrug:

Yes! I'm glad to see that my philosophy is finally starting to be accepted by other people. Usually people just look at me funny and then walk away muttering something about an institution and people in white clothing

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No, you're right, it can be worse.
Not that that was my point, anyway, but you seem to have missed my other points in this thread already, so...I'm backing out of this discussion.

that's what I meant, I just worded it badly

In b4 lock.





Aw crap, I'm way too early.

It makes sense to me. :shrug:

I have no problem with having a max post count, since ppl can just make a continuation thread, but I do wish it was a bit more than 200. Like 400 perhaps.

Technically, even today's forum software can sometimes have performance issues with threads that are really really huge (like 1000+ pages) but yeah, like the rules say, it's mostly for other reasons at this point.

The best reason I can see for this rule to remain is because I assure you before any thread on this forum would get to 800 posts it would be full of spam, full of off topic posts and just generally a mess. And what moderator at that point would want to sit down to 800 pages of edits and deletions and such to try and keep it open? Not one of us. We would lock it and that would indeed be an abrupt end to the discussion because we would not allow another at that point.

Keeping it to 200, I can come in after not being here for 12 hours or 2 days and without knowing what happened the last two days in that thread I could read through it for problems in a short amount of time, edit out problems and keep it open and thus closing it at 200 another thread would be possible because that thread went ok.

Restarting a thread almost always brings it back on topic, has more new members willing to read the entire thing and helps the moderators keep things tidy and civil and on topic.

Nope, we don't have to do it this way but as you can see a large number of our members are used to it. Those who are new sometimes squawk about it but after a bit they too seem to like it. In the end, it harms nobody, assists the moderators and newer members in keeping up with a thread or subject and for this forum and it's members...it just plan works.

I like it. I'm even spoiled by it as I despise finding a 1000 page thread on a forum about something I want to know a bit about and having to wade through pages of "I like pie" and "rick roll" and senseless emotes to find what the thread was supposed to be about.

:shrug:

Anyway, I do believe in questioning authority but in the end, it is Bethesda's choice and we all agree to that rule when we join so it should be no surprise. I'm just sorry they did not institute the moderator tool to shock users via cyberspace when they question us instead of the 200 post rule. They thought we might abuse it.

This, exactly. I've been to other forums with less post restrictions, and seeing a topic I'm interested in already have dozens of pages full of people discussing it completely turns me off from the idea of jumping in with them. Too crowded.

I think long threadscan be helpfully in some instances, like for let's plays, on the something awful or awkward zombie forums, much easier to organize a very long LP that way

There's no reason to buy the bandwidth issue anymore -- it's getting close to a decade ago when that rationale was given.

OTOH, I have seen how topics deviate, it happens like clockwork, so for those which survive interest and don't just become nonsensical spam, they are simply remade. I don't see an issue with this logic at all.

You know, adding pointless spam to a thread really doesn't tend to extend its life expectancy. Usually it get the thread locked because of spam.

It also gets the spammer a warning and posting ability suspension for a while/days. And we do warn for spamming any version of "in before the lock".

If there is a problem in the thread, report it with the report button.

Forum member: *Comes in and asks a question in a well thought out manner.*

Mods: *Considers discussion but instead says 'those are the rules, obey or gtfo'.*

Figures.

That's how it's been for a while now. Truth be told, more interesting discussion where there's less little big brother looking over your pixel shoulder is best left for other forums. This one is for more when you feel like giving relationship advice (i.e. "ask her") or re-posting your favourite *insert dull subject here* in an OCD-like fashion, or checking up on old friends back when you used to have interesting discussion.

That being said, to me, the lock issue is pretty straight forward and one of the few cases that I can see eye to eye with them on. I would reiterate but it's two posts above yours.

Really don't see what the big deal is :shrug:

The search function has been improved upon and it's easier to search for threads than it was before. It's basic courtesy to search through the forums, any forum, prior to posting a new, possibly duplicate topic. It doesn't matter whether you close topics at 500 posts or 200. If there is an open topic about the issue you want to discuss then it's probably best to just use that thread.

I also thought it was weird at first, but I got used to it.

And Summer makes a great point about it being easier for mods to review.

There are a lot less spam and troll posts on this forum compared with others.

If only all the new guys in the Skyrim forum would learn that one skill. If you search for these type topics: Spears, Spell Making, Skills, Dragons, Romance, Marriage, etc. you get about 6 pages of nothing but duplicate topics with the majority of them being still open for discussion. Yet no one seems to think about searching before they post something like "What do you want to see in Skyrim?".

And my two cents on the OP. I'm 100% for locking topics at 200 posts. If a topic is on page 8 or higher I don't even bother clicking on it because I've missed out on most of the discussion already. New threads keep it fresh and invite new people into the topics so it's not the same just three guys arguing about the same thing for 1000 posts. I would much rather go through a locked thread and read 200 posts then post in the newest thread than have to read through 400 posts in the same topic.

The mods don't make the rules, they enforce them.

Lmao

Look at that, I drunk posted spam again last night. Wouldn't be a real thread without a drunk post from EvilFish1... :facepalm:

The 200 post limit is actually one of the things that makes this forum good. 'Megathreads' (i.e. threads that go into the hundreds or thousands of posts) tend to go one of two ways: spamfests, or conversations between a handful of members, that essentially makes the thread completely pointless for anyone else to post in.

theres nothing to discuss. the fact that the OP asks a question that is plainly answered in the forums rules that you are supposed to read before accepting to make an account, and then gets upset when the rules and their reasons are reiterated just proves that he/she didn't bother and just scrolled down and clicked I accept with out reading.

shouldn't complain, with that kind of careless ness should be happy that the bgsf is a malicious site that gets you to agree to bad stuff in the read before accepting doc.

I actually like that bethesda has all these "useless," as the OP would like to call them, rules. It keeps things nice and organized. It keeps an actual order to things that I don't see a lot on internet sites. I am not blindly following bethesda's rules, I am respecting what they have asked me to do (after at least one warning... :tongue:), and am happy to oblige. If I didn't like it, I would leave.

Which leads me to my next point-

If you don't like the rules, then don't be a part of the bethesda forums. It will help avoid topics like these that just cause unneeded uproar in the forums. By all means stay. You will get used to things way quicker then you think.

I prefer the 200 post limit. Other forums with their 20 page threads are too confusing for me after being on here.