Hi.
It's probably stupid, but I can't find how in a script (extend activemagiceffect, under a OnEffectStart) I can make an actor fall on the ground, like I would do if he would be dead.

It is to make a spell that just makes the akTarget fall on the ground, not kill him, and allowing him to "wake up" again immediatly.

Is there a PlayIdle or something ? Another way to do ?

Thanks. It's probably so simple...

Haven't tried this yet, but a Papyrus function exists called "SetUnconscious"

esentially

SomeActor.SetUnconscious()

I would try this before posting, but I'm not at my computer. I've been wanting to see what it does. I am hoping it does exactly what you described. Pass out and hit the ground.

No, this function doesn't make an actor fall. It just sets him unconscious, but still standing up, and even walking in slow motion cause of the unconsciousness.
I really just search for the way to tell a NPC "FALL, then you can do wathever you want".

Nobody knows ?

I was looking at the Thief guild quest when we first meet Karliah, and she shoots the player.
But I find nothing. Just ta playidle(pGetUp) when the player is already out of the ruins.

hmmm... standing up doesn't sound unconscious to me.

Have you played with
.ForceAddRagdollToWorld()

yet? Something else I haven't tried yet, but curious what it will do.

Nop, doesn't do anything at all.
For the try, I wrote this script, and have add it to a poison :

Scriptname FallPoison extends activemagiceffect  Event OnEffectStart(Actor akTarget, Actor akCaster)akTarget.SetUnconscious()EndEvent

It workds fine, but setting someone unconscious just means "closing his eyes, disallow him from moving and from talking". In fact, he sleeps standing up.

So, I tried the ragdoll :

Scriptname FallPoison extends activemagiceffect  Event OnEffectStart(Actor akTarget, Actor akCaster)akTarget.ForceAddRagdollToWorld()akTarget.SetUnconscious()EndEvent

But it doesn't do more, like that. I need another way... I guess there must be an Idle, but... i'm not friend with them yet.

Yeah... that's a clever idea. I've been able to play a few idles in the past (if the character isn't already busy). I saw this today in the forum though, you may be interested in it as well.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1350733-i-found-out-how-to-play-any-animation-at-any-time/page__fromsearch__1

I'm interesting me at the SendAnimationEvent, in fact, i'm already on http://www.creationkit.com/SendAnimationEvent_-_Debug ^^. One more try with another function in my way to learn what's works or not, and how.
I'll try to find the "Death" animation, and send it to the NPC...

I will try to look out your link too.

Ok, it seems to work. I tried with a few animations (found in the Gameplay/animation menu), now I just have to find the correct one.
The "jumpFall" is lolly.

Cool!!! Can't wait to play with it too.

How about applyhavokimpulse along setunconscious?

Paralyze does this, you could even give him paralyze as an ability who would let him be knocked out until you remove it.
Use an copy of the paralyze target effect and remove the visual effects.
You then need to make an spell with than effect and cast on target.

That sounds fun.... probably won't emulate "falling down" maybe "falling up" or "sideways"... I'd love to find out.

I would not. Paralyze does what the name means, it paralyses, and I would just like the body of the NPC falling down, like he's dying. Not like a giant stick.
I will continue to play with the SendAnimationEvent right now, I think.

I found the "DeathAnim" animaiton. But it's not complete, and the NPC get stuck half in the ground...
I will search more.

Despite the name, Using applyhavokimpulse , you will send a NPC to the ground propperly. Then setunconscious could help avoiding it to stand up too early. paralising the NPC once on the ground afer aaplyhavokimpulse may also be usefull.

I found something.
I use the SendAnimationEvent "deathanim" and the actor falls on the ground. Then inconscious.

But the animation never stops : once he is on on the ground, even when he wakes up, he doesn't stand up.

Like that :

Scriptname FallPoison extends activemagiceffect Event OnEffectStart(Actor akTarget, Actor akCaster)Debug.SendAnimationEvent(akTarget, "deathanim")akTarget.SetUnconscious()EndEventEvent OnEffectFinish(Actor akTarget, Actor akCaster)akTarget.SetUnconscious(false)EndEvent

So, I will try the HavokImpulse, yes.

But, if I need to set up animations for other things, I would know how to revert the sendanimationevent, or stop it. Someone knows ?

Well, when I use applyhavokimpulse, it doesn't apply anything.

Event OnEffectStart(Actor akTarget, Actor akCaster)akTarget.applyhavokimpulse(0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 250.0)akTarget.SetUnconscious()EndEvent

I tried with a Z axis of 1.0 and -1.0, with a magnitude of 1, 10, 50, 1000, 250.
But it doesn't apply any imulse on the akTarget.

Am I missing something ?

As X Y Z and magnitude are float, do I have to set up properties for them ?

I'll answer this quickly:

When you place the actor/NPC, there should be a checkbox near the bottom that says something like "set dead", but I have no time to find the exact name of it.

I don't want to place a setdead actor, I want to make an actor already alive in the game falling down, without killing him

I test that by a poison for now, but it could abe a spell too, it is scripted by extends activemagiceffect.


I will make it easiest :
The only question I have is : "What is the function or command to make the animation of SendAnimationEvent stop ?"
That's the only thing stopping me from finishing what I'm doing.

Nobody knows ?

Use PushActorAway(0). Should ragdoll with 0 force.

That works fine to make the actor fall ! Simple and nice function, i won't forget it.

But I have in the case another problem.
With this script, my target doesn't stay on the ground, it stand up even with closed eyes (unconscious).
The 15 sec of the Unconscious effect work fine.

Scriptname FallPoison extends activemagiceffect Event OnEffectStart(Actor akTarget, Actor akCaster)Game.GetPlayer().PushActorAway(akTarget, 0)akTarget.SetUnconscious()EndEventEvent OnEffectFinish(Actor akTarget, Actor akCaster)akTarget.SetUnconscious(false)EndEvent

I tried to add a paralyse spell to the target, but it doesn't do anything.
How can I script to force the NPC to stay on the ground for 15 sec ?

Can you really kill him, then bring him back to life?

Erm, no, I can't.

Once this will work correctly, I will try to add a wake up on the unconscious NPC if the player walks near him, and if he's detecting him.
I can't do that if the NPC is dead.