So there is one problem i have with the melee fighting and the add in of melee finishers. the problem is that it's hard to do sometimes, especially at higher levels. so what if in the next patch they made it more like Red Dead Redemption where if you punch someone, it's not a crime, it just starts a brawl with out costing money with anyone. Other people could join in maybe...

You hear about people in inn's who get into fights, yet you can't with out getting killed.

ontop of that they would also have to add in melee finishers that are simply to knock someone out, not kill.

I'd like to punch people without consequence, so I wouldn't mind if they did that.

yeah I was a little dissapointed that I couldn't start a fight, espically when I walked into Jorrvaskr for the first time. There are some certain times that I would like to punch a guard for making stupid remarks like " So your the new member of the Companion, so what you fetch the mead? "

Nothing sounds better then starting a pub brawl after too much ale

I remember playing Oblivion and being disappointed that unarmed combat was a crime. I had wanted to roleplay a thief that relied on unarmed combat to defend himself if he got caught so he could knock people down (or out) without killing them to make his get away. At first it seemed like you should be able to do that since unarmed damaged stamina. I was dissappointed to learn that was not how it worked. I would like that type of option. Not sure what it has to do with kill cams though.

If you punch someone on accident, then lower your fists, and they should forgive you and walk away.

Most times it's no accident in my case, a lot of people piss me off with the remarks they make. I would also like to be able to RP having a bad day and wash it away with a few mead and a good old brawl but I'm satisfied with taking it out on some bandits instead.

Punch them and pay the bounty. It's not like the fines are going to drive you in to bankruptcy in a hurry. Otherwise kill them and leave no witnesses.

I read the title of this thread and thought "that's a first, someone has a problem with most of the combat system.". I was a little disappointed, strangely enough, to find out you just meant unarmed combat.

I understand your problem and feel the same way