Merchants have little gold

Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:02 am

Ive never seen them get much over a thousand. I can unload thousands in gear if I'm already buying stuff but if they don't have anything I need, they get tapped out quickly. I know there are speech perks to improve that but I have no interest in wasting the points.

Does this situation ever improve? At this point to unload gear I would have to make a major tour to hit the various stores and accidentally collect more drops along the way.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:07 am

Get better Speech.Then there's a perk that makes you possible to give to any of them "500" gold permanently.Sometimes they will just get 10.000 gold permanently.Good luck.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:01 am

Get your speech up to 70 and get the perk to invest money in shops.

Invest in Riverwood's shop and wait 2 days. When you check him again, he'll start having 11-12k.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:43 pm

I don't want to waste speech perks.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:47 am

The speech thing is pointless and wasting perks for money which you'll have plenty of about halfway through. What I do is buy Grand Soul Stones or train particular skills with NPC's that can buy stuff. Then you can sell anything you want. It's not a 100% good trade off, but getting a few extra skillpoints or grand soul stones is always usefull. I also have stuff that sells for over 2000 and no merchant can buy it. I've been thinking about the speech skill, but decided against it and just put the stuff in a chest. Selling emerald/diamond rings/necklaces is a far better investment and gets you money quicker if that's what you're aiming for.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:16 am

It's not wasting, it's called trying to balance the game. And if you think having to get better at a skill and using perks to make it easier to get rich then. Uhh... I don't know if you played an RPG before?
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:44 am

Speech tree, take the investor perk and the perk that raises all merchant gold by 1000. Now the minimum any invested shop will have is around 2250.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:41 pm

Best thing to do is to use two Perks so you can sell to anyone. Then go to a town that has a few merchants in one area, sell to all of them, wait 24 hours, rinse repeat.

After a while, looting for profit is kind of a waste. There is not that much to spend money on once you have your home(s). You can craft or find stuff as good as what you can buy. I now only pick up jewelery and uniques. The rest I leave for the other scavengers.

Speaking of Uniques, somebody somewhere is bound to ask for it, so you may want to keep those items rather than sell them. I have seen Merchant inventory's reset.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:35 am

Merchants really should not have thousands of gold available in shop. Why?

1. It`s realistic. Traditionally, ancient shops never kept thousands of coin. It would usually be a few hundred, even in a busy place.

2. If you get robbed, the thief doesn`t get ALL your money.

3. Game wise, it stops you becoming a billionaire too fast.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:03 pm

Merchants really should not have thousands of gold available in shop. Why?

1. It`s unrealistic. Traditionally, ancient shops never kept thousands of coin. It would usually be a few hundred, even in a busy place.



And lol for bringing up realism in Skyrim. This is gonna turn into the American Voice Actor thread all over again.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:17 am

And lol for bringing up realism in Skyrim. This is gonna turn into the American Voice Actor thread all over again.

You don`t get it.

Fantasy + reality = a believable and immersive game.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:31 am

Merchants really should not have thousands of gold available in shop. Why?

1. It`s realistic. Traditionally, ancient shops never kept thousands of coin. It would usually be a few hundred, even in a busy place.

2. If you get robbed, the thief doesn`t get ALL your money.

3. Game wise, it stops you becoming a billionaire too fast.
Yeah, but realism isn't part of this game is it. Why have stuff in the game no one in the entire world has enough money to pay for? Also, they have the same amount of money after 24 hours? If anything this should stack. Plus talking about realism, I remember a quest in Markath where I got 750 gold for walking 10 yards with an item to bring it to someone else in the same city! The item wasn't even worth this amount!!

On point 3: I love the "too fast" thingy. Besides the high coin equipment doesn't appear until you are high level. Plus you can't sell stuff for much if the speech skill is low.

At this point what I do is: go to every merchant in Whiterun and sell the stuff I have and then go to Windhelm/Riften to sell more stuff. Now THAT's realistic! I'm doing an important quest, but I have to travel halfway across the planet to get rid of some loot no one else managed to find in all the thousands of years before me.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:44 pm

You don`t get it.

Fantasy + reality = a believable and immersive game.

Elaborate on "Believable".

What am I supposed to be believing about this game?
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:38 pm

Oh, the whole thing is moot. Even with shops having the standard 750 or so, one can easily get more gold that one needs. This is different from OB where I was generally hampered by lack of gold and a need to get more all the time. You can get good equipment by making / enchanting it. I rarely find goods at merchants which are better than what I have so the only use for gold is to buy raw materials, a house and a few other things. I'm running around with about 20k now and nothing to do with it.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:38 pm

Oh, the whole thing is moot. Even with shops having the standard 750 or so, one can easily get more gold that one needs. This is different from OB where I was generally hampered by lack of gold and a need to get more all the time. You can get good equipment by making / enchanting it. I rarely find goods at merchants which are better than what I have so the only use for gold is to buy raw materials, a house and a few other things. I'm running around with about 20k now and nothing to do with it.
Buy high level skills, you'll burn it faster than you know. I had about 80K at one point. I think after you get to level 50 money really doesn't need to be spent on things. Smithing gets you money really really quickly even at low levels selling gold rings is the way to go.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:18 am

As a member of the thieves guild you get fences with 4000 gold at a time. Makes it much easier to shift a lot of gear quickly.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:25 am

Merchants really should not have thousands of gold available in shop. Why?

1. It`s realistic. Traditionally, ancient shops never kept thousands of coin. It would usually be a few hundred, even in a busy place.

2. If you get robbed, the thief doesn`t get ALL your money.

3. Game wise, it stops you becoming a billionaire too fast.

1. No it isn't because gold in the real world does not equate to gold in a fantasy world it is closer to a dollar bill. And I can assure you before the advent of credit cards stores had enough cash to buy and sell the items they specialized in carrying. So yeah bob the fruit merchant would not carry a thousand gold, but frank the guy who buys and sells daedric armor freaking would.

2. No that is why you don't leave it in the store at night and hire a guard for the day.

3. No it doesn't it just makes you use the wait command a lot.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:32 am

Buy high level skills, you'll burn it faster than you know. I had about 80K at one point. I think after you get to level 50 money really doesn't need to be spent on things. Smithing gets you money really really quickly even at low levels selling gold rings is the way to go.

What are you spending it on? I'm lvl 49 and not finding anything interesting to buy. I got a house and furnished it. My weapons and buffs have me pretty strong. I'm sort of our of things I wish to buy. I would buy enough training in archery to get it up but so far nobody I can find can teach me.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:56 am

I'm level 33 atm, and find most smiths have 1100-1200 gold, most general merchants 700-1000. I can generally unload virtually all my gear in whiterun by hitting Adrianne, the Ulfberth, then the Drunken Huntsman . . if I have anything left, i head over to Belethor.

I don't think gold is a problem in this game.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:23 am

Give them extra through the console or complete the thieves guild questline.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:20 am

What are you spending it on? I'm lvl 49 and not finding anything interesting to buy. I got a house and furnished it. My weapons and buffs have me pretty strong. I'm sort of our of things I wish to buy. I would buy enough training in archery to get it up but so far nobody I can find can teach me.
Try level 60+ skill training. They cost 2K+ a pop and get higher with each skill level. Aela at the companions guild is a good archer trainer. Also the thieves guild has one that can train you. But that's only one skill. I doubt you only invest in the one skill. Plus Grand soul stones cost a lot if you're into enchanting. If you've already done all that, then I guess you're just have to quit picking up loot. I have quite a lot of equipment with different enchantments on them to suit the situation I'm in. Plus at 100 enchanting you can put 2 things on an item. At level 50 you're going to have maxed out your smithing probably in terms of max level equipment. My light dragon armor is close to 600 armor and I got that at level 30 or so... Still you might find better enchantments later when you increase that skill so there should be room for improvement. Unless you've also maxed out enchanting.

I'm level 33 atm, and find most smiths have 1100-1200 gold, most general merchants 700-1000. I can generally unload virtually all my gear in whiterun by hitting Adrianne, the Ulfberth, then the Drunken Huntsman . . if I have anything left, i head over to Belethor.

I don't think gold is a problem in this game.
It's not a problem at your level. At level 50 and higher you find stuff you can sell for 2K 3K and higher. No one can buy this loot. This is the problem. Well you're going to be rich by then so it's not really a problem. It's just lame.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:15 pm

Try level 60+ skill training. They cost 2K+ a pop and get higher with each skill level. Aela at the companions guild is a good archer trainer. Also the thieves guild has one that can train you. But that's only one skill. I doubt you only invest in the one skill. Plus Grand soul stones cost a lot if you're into enchanting. If you've already done all that, then I guess you're just have to quit picking up loot. I have quite a lot of equipment with different enchantments on them to suit the situation I'm in. Plus at 100 enchanting you can put 2 things on an item. At level 50 you're going to have maxed out your smithing probably in terms of max level equipment. My light dragon armor is close to 600 armor and I got that at level 30 or so... Still you might find better enchantments later when you increase that skill so there should be room for improvement. Unless you've also maxed out enchanting.



Nope haven't maxed out enchanting but done the other stuff. I haven't been pumping enchanting or alchemy at all this game. As to the Thieves Guild, I'm through that and have no interest in that training. Maybe I'll find another archery instructor who will still teach me. I did spend about 10k on Aela. At the time I was worried that I'd drained myself down to poverty but recovered soon and never had a place where I needed gold but lacked it.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:00 pm


It's not a problem at your level. At level 50 and higher you find stuff you can sell for 2K 3K and higher. No one can buy this loot. This is the problem. Well you're going to be rich by then so it's not really a problem. It's just lame.

"Can sell for" is the key.

I'm already finding stuff with base values of 1000+, including items with base values of 1800-2000. They tend to actually sell for about 800-900, max. Sure, that means I deplete one vendor right away, but as I noted, in Whiterun, there are several with enough cash to get rid of all my stuff.

But as you say, cash is not a problem . . .I'm running around with approximately 120,000 in gold right now. The only thing I ever buy is health pots . . . there's nothing else I've needed to buy in this game. So even if I was selling a 3000 gold item for 800, it would be no big deal.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:16 am

I don't want to waste speech perks.

Then stop complaining that merchant don't have enough money. If those perks are a waste then you don't need them. So merchant have enough money. If they don't then you need those perks, so there are not a waste.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:16 pm

I have to agree this is really annoying. I have quite a few gem stones to sell and cannot just simply hock them all at one time for the money. I have to be traveling around or waiting and such...annoying...
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