Missing Daedric ShrineArtifactPrince

Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:48 am

In Oblivion upon completing the Shivering Isles DLC the curse that binds Jyggalag to Sheogorath is broken and the Prince of Order is freed. Therefore 200 years later he would have amassed some followers and surely obtained his own shrine and artifacts...so why it not somewhere in skyrim? It would make up for Nocturnal not giving you an artifact you can keep. Perhaps a Knight of Order Weapon that calms everyone or a set of crystal armor? I feel Bethesda missed out on an opportunity to build upon their previous story
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Assumptah George
 
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:36 am

The problem is that Jiggy seemed extreme grey and boring, even Sheo said that.

I still think Sheo just made the whole story up and Jiggy is not another prince, just another aspect of Sheo.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:40 am

Well it is know that Jyggalag came before Ann Marie...err Sheogorath and the the other princes cursed him with madness because f how powerful he was. That kind of power would make for an excellent quest
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:47 pm

Well, we don't know what happened to Jyggalag after the entire Shivering Isles thing.
And he seems like that kind of daedric prince that doesn't really care about the people of Nirn, and if he doesn't care how could he get any followers?
The only person the walk in and out from that portal was the CoC and you never tell anyone about Jyggalag.
I'm just saying that he may have remained unknow for all these years.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:39 am

He is the prince of order so i think he would try to stop the great war, the dragon crisis, the civil war, etc just because it is his nature. He has equal motive to mess with mortals just as the other princes. And the fact that none of the princes mention him is even more disrupting. I think it would have been nothing but good to add another daedric chunk to the game since those are always the best parts
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:27 am

In Oblivion upon completing the Shivering Isles DLC the curse that binds Jyggalag to Sheogorath is broken and the Prince of Order is freed. Therefore 200 years later he would have amassed some followers and surely obtained his own shrine and artifacts...so why it not somewhere in skyrim? It would make up for Nocturnal not giving you an artifact you can keep. Perhaps a Knight of Order Weapon that calms everyone or a set of crystal armor? I feel Bethesda missed out on an opportunity to build upon their previous story

Lets not forget that Skyrim is based on an entirely different moment of the series timeline and furthermore it has nothing to do with Oblivion. Skyrim is not an expansion set of Oblivion so i don't see the logic in building upon that story line. The whole idea of the series is based on different stories ( "Scrolls" ) Just as like Oblivion had nothing to do with morrowind and Morrowind had nothing to do with daggerfall etc...
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:27 am

He is the prince of order so i think he would try to stop the great war, the dragon crisis, the civil war, etc just because it is his nature. He has equal motive to mess with mortals just as the other princes. And the fact that none of the princes mention him is even more disrupting. I think it would have been nothing but good to add another daedric chunk to the game since those are always the best parts
As I said, maybe he doesn't care about mortals and is happy in his own plane. And some grey boring OCD daedric prince doesn't really add much IMO.
Besides what would he be able to do about the great war without just ending up making more cahos. Besides daedric worshipping isn't all that popular in Skyrim if I remember correctly.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:23 am

except that the daedric princes are in every game, and oblivion exists parallel to nirn so the fact that the previous game occured in cyrodill is irrelevent. You say it has nothing to do with oblivion yet, the oblivion crisis is mentioned many times as well as sheogorath himself mentions events from oblivion went you 1st meet him. So by your logic all the artifacts from previous games (mehrunes razor, sanguines rose, clavicus' masque) should not exist?
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:57 am

except that the daedric princes are in every game, and oblivion exists parallel to nirn so the fact that the previous game occured in cyrodill is irrelevent. You say it has nothing to do with oblivion yet, the oblivion crisis is mentioned many times as well as sheogorath himself mentions events from oblivion went you 1st meet him. So by your logic all the artifacts from previous games (mehrunes razor, sanguines rose, clavicus' masque) should not exist?
I'm saying that Jyggalag probably doesn't care, and that most people in skyrim don't worship daedras. Thus there might not be many followers of jyggalag there, if there even are any at all.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:32 am

I would have liked him to be included regardless.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:17 pm

I'm saying that Jyggalag probably doesn't care, and that most people in skyrim don't worship daedras. Thus there might not be many followers of jyggalag there, if there even are any at all.
that wasnt in response to you, but the argonian
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:23 am

I'm not saying they shouldn't exist, They are part of the lore after all but to mention something and to actually have an open quest or adventure about it its another thing and as Emberoth pointed there are not too many followers of deadra in Skyrim so no point in doing sutch a quest. Now it would have been great if they made a DLC of Oblivion with that story but in Skyrim it won;t fit at all.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:22 pm

He is the prince of order so i think he would try to stop the great war, the dragon crisis, the civil war, etc just because it is his nature.

Not necessarily. Daedric morals and interpretation of the universe is by its nature very different from the mortal (or even the Aedra) interpretations of the same. What is "order" to Jyggalag may not be perceived as "order" by mer and men. If the Aldmeri Dominion were to take over and enslave or eliminate men, that can be perceived as a form of order. Likewise if Alduin were to eat the world: what's more orderly than nothingness?

Think back to Oblivion. The mortal perception, and I suspect the perception of many players, is simply that Mehrunes Dagon was trying to destroy Tamriel. However, Mehrunes Dagon is also the Daedric Prince of change. What causes more change than the felling of a centuries old ruling dynasty? The argument can be made that Dagon's invasion wasn't so much about destroying Nirn as we know as it was dragging Tamriel, kicking and screaming, into the Fourth Era.

As for Jyggalag not being mentioned by the other Daedric Princes--he wasn't mentioned much in the other games, either. Shivering Isles being the lone exception for obvious reasons. In fact, given that the other Princes were supposed to have cursed him into being Sheogorath, they'd probably go out of their way not to mention him. Dirty laundry and all that.

Besides, I hear he's about as popular as Malacath at a party. And Malacath is not popular at parties.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:11 pm

How about Goldbrand?
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