new spell elements : V

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:14 pm

hm....would be cool if we had more elements when it came to spells. or like different types of energys .. like using dark, water , earth, wind, steel types of spells..... what do you guys think?(dark energy would make being a black mage cool)

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:53 pm

I agree more is more.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:06 pm

I agree more is more.

yeah i kinda feel its time to break away from the typical fire,shock,frost, template and add some more elements, especially since destruction feels like it needs more spells. no telling how they would handle it in the next game though

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:26 pm

In previous games there were more. There were spells to drain life, stamina or magic. Or to simply damage those things, no drain but more damage. There also used to be spells to conjure armor and more fortifications as well as spells to see in the dark (not light spells such as magelight that screw your stealth). Mages got a bit of the short stick in Skyrim really. Esp with spell creation getting the axe.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:18 am

In previous games there were more. There were spells to drain life, stamina or magic. Or to simply damage those things, no drain but more damage. There also used to be spells to conjure armor and more fortifications as well as spells to see in the dark (not light spells such as magelight that screw your stealth). Mages got a bit of the short stick in Skyrim really. Esp with spell creation getting the axe.

spell creation isnt a big deal for me (though it should be an option for those who want it) but yeah i agree i do miss spells like entropic touche and what not

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:28 pm

In previous games there were more. There were spells to drain life, stamina or magic. Or to simply damage those things, no drain but more damage. There also used to be spells to conjure armor and more fortifications as well as spells to see in the dark (not light spells such as magelight that screw your stealth). Mages got a bit of the short stick in Skyrim really. Esp with spell creation getting the axe.

I weep for the days we mages had more options and spell crafting is essential as well.
I liked the drain spells.
I also really liked the direct damage spells.
We lost fortifying stats and skills.
More spells too like slowfall, jump, mark/recall, poison, command, more summons, water walking, dispel and so many more.

I do like the idea of more elements above. Summoning a tornado would be epic.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:22 am

I miss Night Eye, Chameleon and Weight of the World

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:09 am

I weep for the days we mages had more options and spell crafting is essential as well.
I liked the drain spells.
I also really liked the direct damage spells.
We lost fortifying stats and skills.
More spells too like slowfall, jump, mark/recall, poison, command, more summons, water walking, dispel and so many more.

I do like the idea of more elements above. Summoning a tornado would be epic.

heh tornados.....theres an infamous joke in there but i wont cross that bridge

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:44 pm

I miss Night Eye, Chameleon and Weight of the World

You and me both.

Levitate as well.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:47 pm

heh tornados.....theres an infamous joke in there but i wont cross that bridge

Hmmm PM me it.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:38 pm

You and me both.

Levitate as well.

Levy was BAMF

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:34 pm

Levy was BAMF

It was, all the old spells added so much RP value.
Now we have a gutted system that barely fits the word magic in an ES game.

You are one of the newer people here that actually get it. More is more less is less. :thumbsup:

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:34 pm

Hmmm PM me it.

no no im thinking of when i suggested to a friend that a tornado attack in tes would be like cole's ionic vortex lol......hold on ill pm him and see if he remebers it

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:08 am

no no im thinking of when i suggested to a friend that a tornado attack in tes would be like cole's ionic vortex lol......hold on ill pm him and see if he remebers it

Oh ok lol.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:56 pm

It was, all the old spells added so much RP value.
Now we have a gutted system that barely fits the word magic in an ES game.

You are one of the newer people here that actually get it. More is more less is less. :thumbsup:

exactly i mean yes i can roleplay a sith lord with lightning spells but yeaaaaah no dark wizard powers, and considering im a nut for fairy tail....dragonslayer charachter is hard to pull off

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:32 am

exactly i mean yes i can roleplay a sith lord with lightning spells but yeaaaaah no dark wizard powers, and considering im a nut for fairy tail....dragonslayer charachter is hard to pull off

Sith lord is crossing the boarder for me.

I keep it within TES universe.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:24 pm

Sith lord is crossing the boarder for me.

I keep it within TES universe.

ah.....well i cant help it im crazy about 4 things 1. cheese 2.tes 3.star wars 4.fairy tail lmao :intergalactic:

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:59 am

It was, all the old spells added so much RP value.
Now we have a gutted system that barely fits the word magic in an ES game.

You are one of the newer people here that actually get it. More is more less is less. :thumbsup:

Yeah, well I'm new posting. But I remember Morrowind and all the crazy things you could make. People think Oblivion was crazy (although I abused the heck out of my Fortify Health, Magic and Stamina plus Max Aegis and regen), but Morrowind you could add like 7 or 8 effects. Fun times.

And Night Eye plus detect life and chameleon on one spell was incredibly useful when dungeon crawling as a stealthy

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:20 pm

Oh yes Morrowind had so many more options than Oblivion and I do not understand why people seem to think less is more, you know I have had a few people actually tell me that with a weak and invalid argument to back it up.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:38 pm

Yeah, well I'm new posting. But I remember Morrowind and all the crazy things you could make. People think Oblivion was crazy (although I abused the heck out of my Fortify Health, Magic and Stamina plus Max Aegis and regen), but Morrowind you could add like 7 or 8 effects. Fun times.

My post above is too you not sure what happened...

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:33 am

Oh yes Morrowind had so many more options than Oblivion and I do not understand why people seem to think less is more, you know I have had a few people actually tell me that with a weak and invalid argument to back it up.

Its boggling really. At least for me, once you've run through all the quests a half dozen times, the reply value comes from customization. Spell crafting was a major part of that, the heart of it for a mage. Yeah, you can pick different skill trees to progress through to mix things up a bit. But have a deep crafting mechanic including expansive enchanting, alch and spell craft you can totally change how your character behaves in gameplay. More so than preset combat skills.

And yeah, I've seen a couple of those people in that other thread.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:02 pm

My post above is too you not sure what happened...

I edited. Probably while you were quoting.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:56 am

I edited. Probably while you were quoting.

or...perhaps....it was an attack.....FROM THE FORBIDDEN ZONE!!!!

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:31 pm

ah water shields would be awesome also the way spells are used in general...fists should be able to hold spells....do i smell thunder punch?!

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:38 am

Its boggling really. At least for me, once you've run through all the quests a half dozen times, the reply value comes from customization. Spell crafting was a major part of that, the heart of it for a mage. Yeah, you can pick different skill trees to progress through to mix things up a bit. But have a deep crafting mechanic including expansive enchanting, alch and spell craft you can totally change how your character behaves in gameplay. More so than preset combat skills.

And yeah, I've seen a couple of those people in that other thread.

Yea its preposterous. You had thousands of options at your finger tips and could fine tune any spell you want. It did add replay in that no mage or spellsword and Nightblade felt the same they was all different and diverse. We could mix and match any combination of effects we wanted in the game. It was very manipulation of the arcane arts threw scientific study.

I do not understand people are satisfied with this simplistic system compared to the other games, its even more dumb founding when older players thing its ok the last system was to spread sheety. Really?

ah water shields would be awesome also the way spells are used in general...fists should be able to hold spells....do i smell thunder punch?!

Water shield Harry Potter style to block fire.