Nilsine Shatter-Shield

Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:23 am

(Please as few spoilers as possible.)


Muiri cought my eye but I take time to ponder every choice. I would like to know why exactly she wants Nilsine dead. I tried searching elsewhere but no luck, it only says that she "casted her out". If someone did the quest I'd really like to know (as literary as possible) what words are used in describing Nilsine and why she needs to die.
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Lisha Boo
 
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:54 pm

If I recall, she wants you to kill Nilsine to make her family feel bad for casting Muiri out onto the streets. She's mainly using Nilsine as an object of her revenge upon the parents. Edit: I should also add that Muiri believed that by killing Nilsine, the family would take back Muiri out of guilt, or something like that.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:34 pm

If I recall, she wants you to kill Nilsine to make her family feel bad for casting Muiri out onto the streets. She's mainly using Nilsine as an object of her revenge upon the parents. Edit: I should also add that Muiri believed that by killing Nilsine, the family would take back Muiri out of guilt, or something like that.

Alright, so she wants to kill an innocent person more or less. And also to marry her I need to join the Dark Brotherhood which I did not intend to.

A pity. She looked pretty, and we have in common alchemy interest.


I'm trying to find someone with personality and it could prove impossible task seeing how few options there are in the first place even when you ignore the race, and then few lines spoken by a NPC.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:52 am

Muiri is quite crazy over being essentially seduced, betrayed, abandoned, and then cast into the wilderness.

It doesn't help her surrogate sister was killed by Jack the Ripper.

A persuasion option to say, "You know killing her won't make you happy" would have been nice and an option to reunite them.

Then again, that would be Bioware where there's always a happy roses ending.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:35 am

Her sister wasn't killed, someone who was -like- a sister was killed. Just clearing that up.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:04 am

Surrogate sister, then.

Nilsine Shatter-Shield is the only character I actually regret killing because it's such a terrible action to murder someone who is suffering such a recent tragic loss and is seemingly a fairly nice person if not for the fact she's catty. Her response to Muiri is mostly, "you're dead to us, you hear, dead!" The fact, according to the wiki, her mother commits suicide as well is just heartbreaking.

I like to pretend their family finances the Silver Hand and other atrocities to make me feel better about the heinous act.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:16 pm

Surrogate sister, then.

Nilsine Shatter-Shield is the only character I actually regret killing because it's such a terrible action to murder someone who is suffering such a recent tragic loss and is seemingly a fairly nice person if not for the fact she's catty. Her response to Muiri is mostly, "you're dead to us, you hear, dead!" The fact, according to the wiki, her mother commits suicide as well is just heartbreaking.

I like to pretend their family finances the Silver Hand and other atrocities to make me feel better about the heinous act.

Not only that, but then the mother Torva Shatter-shield or whatever commits suicide after losing the only child she had left.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:36 am

Because Muiri is a possessive nutjob.

Felicitations on your future wedding. :biggrin:
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:20 am


I like to pretend their family finances the Silver Hand and other atrocities to make me feel better about the heinous act.
I didn't do it on my DB character. Even my assassin could see that this girl was just obsessed. But mainly I refused because Muiri just assumes you're going to throw in an extra job for some unspecified reward. Ain't no way.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:56 pm

But if you don't take the contract, even though she says it's optional, you're not true DB. Now by Torva committing suicide after should have a ripple effect of Muiri making her feel that pain of guilt. You have to remember as a paid assassin you are just the blade. The person paying for the contract is the killer. In the game only of course. In real life ==> cement house for life or worse depending upon where you are.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:48 pm

Surrogate sister, then.

Nilsine Shatter-Shield is the only character I actually regret killing because it's such a terrible action to murder someone who is suffering such a recent tragic loss and is seemingly a fairly nice person if not for the fact she's catty. Her response to Muiri is mostly, "you're dead to us, you hear, dead!" The fact, according to the wiki, her mother commits suicide as well is just heartbreaking.

I like to pretend their family finances the Silver Hand and other atrocities to make me feel better about the heinous act.

I have my reason's for killing Nilsine, I like to think that im re-uniting her with her dead sister instead of being in pain everyday
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:13 pm

But if you don't take the contract, even though she says it's optional, you're not true DB. Now by Torva committing suicide after should have a ripple effect of Muiri making her feel that pain of guilt. You have to remember as a paid assassin you are just the blade. The person paying for the contract is the killer. In the game only of course. In real life ==> cement house for life or worse depending upon where you are.
Assassins should have standards. People start thinking they can get a twofer for nothing and you're nothing but a common bandit.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:29 am

Eh, she gives you a ring of alchemy.

It's like a marriage proposal from someone deranged.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:49 am

Because Muiri is a possessive nutjob.

Felicitations on your future wedding. :biggrin:

Comon, don't you know the most beautiful ones are the most crazy. :biggrin:
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:38 pm

Yeah, I suppose hoping for "good" options from the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood is silly.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:15 pm

Yeah, I suppose hoping for "good" options from the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood is silly.

Maybe, but I was interested to find that there was room to rationalize these quests as not-totally-evil. You can progress through the Dark Brotherhood quests without doing the most reprehensible contracts, focusing instead on really bad guys. And as Devil Keyz says, you are reuniting her with her sister (and, without getting into spoiler territory, if you've played enough of this game, your character should know by now that death is not necessarily the end of all things).
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:08 pm

Yeah,

I'm instead doing a fun little "in-game" bit of roleplaying. My character did the Dragonborn quest next so he's going to use the Way of the Voice to justify a quest for redemption. He's going to continue the Dark Brotherhood but now as an "Avenging Angel" against the Empire and turn the Thieves Guild "legit" before destroying Alduin and eliminating all of the evil in the Realm.

I like to think he met Nilisine in Sovongarde (she died in battle after all, she drew her dagger) and received her forgiveness.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:44 pm

I killed Nilsine because that's what my contact wanted. An assassin kills people for reward, doesn't matter who or what or why. Also as the first 'real' contract you get for DB, it's good to make an impression on the family, then you can justify using the middle speech option where he just tells them all flat out how good he is and that he'll be their boss one day, right from the start..

(As a side note I do love the 3 distinct speech options with DB, let's you RP your character a bit more in depth, choosing to be a svck-up, a badass or just the strong silent type. Better than a lot of the other factions.)

As my dudes are usually alchemists also, the ring of alchemy proves better reward than the measly bit of coin because it ups the value of every potion I make from then on.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:05 pm

The thing is she doesn't even tell you what the reward will be. I'm not taking any vague promises from a frumpy shop girl. The sacrament requires some effort and dedication to perform, and you don't just get a freebie thrown in like my assassin is some five dollar hoker. That sets up exactly the wrong sort of precedent for a DB's first serious contract, if you ask me.

But I am also a hetero female and immune to batting eyelashes.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:31 am

The thing is that if the payment doesn't match up to the other job, she gets to suffer the same fate. The ring will be of quite a bit of value leveling up alchemy. Batting eyelashes? I too am female, and I'm immune to that.

I did find it interesting that on one of the first jobs to kill the "vampire" I got him in broad daylight? I didn't think vampires could go out in daylight. Or was that something they changed for Skyrim?
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:21 am

Vampires can go out in the daytime if they feed recently. Also, vampires apparently come in variants.
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