is there a way to find the baseid for an object with the refid?
ive tried help <#> to find the objects i want to spawn, but theyre nowhere to be found.

I'm not aware of a method, no. I'd wait for the CK next month.

ah, yeah thanks for your reply, ive been searching for hours now and i cant seem to find it anywhere so i guess ill just have to wait like everybody else.
i also noticed im along way from where i supposed to post this as well.

In past games, the script extender had a console code "get base object" or "gbo". I don't know about finding the stock base ids without the help command or the CK.