Just throwing this out there so I can see if anyone else has noticed this.

I'm talking about the way the DLC releases for Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas have been handled.

We all know Bethesda developed and published Fallout 3, but only published Vegas, the development of which was by Obsidian.

It seems to me that there's a world of difference in the care and attention paid to the release methods of FO3 and NV DLC.

With Fallout 3, DLC was announced well in advance of release, official trailers were made for each piece of DLC which were then extensivley distributed across PSN/Xbox Live, youtube, game websites etc .... and crucially .... each DLC's official trailer ended with ..... guess what? A RELEASE DATE, which proved to be accurate.

With New Vegas, we get very short trailers, which don't seem to have been promoted or distributed half as well as the FO3 ones. When a trailer does appear, it doesn't seem to have been pushed by Obsidian or Bethesda ... the OWB trailer seems to have been made by a voice actress with several parts in the DLC ... it doesn't really appear to be official. Crucially, the Vegas DLC trailers do not end with a release date. In fact, we're supposedly only days from the release of OWB and they still can't/won't lell us when it's coming out!

Conclusion: FO3 DLC was handled professionally, Vegas DLC has been handled amateurishly so far.

Am I the only one frustrated with this? :brokencomputer:

Completely agree. I want my lvl 45 level cap and I want it now dammit! :verymad:

I completely agree, Its been a hellish nightmare waiting for the DLC. Dont get me wrong the DLC so far is well made but damn it wouldn't hurt for them to throw us a teaser like character art, some info on the least important objects to keep us tied over until release. Here is hoping this next Tuesday i get a surprise in the morning with DLC but its highly unlikely.

I think the reson is that Obsidian does not have as much money to throw at the project for marketing and has to wait for Beth to allow them to give release dates and approve the small amount of spending they have and they are too busy with Skyrim right now.

The release dates, marketing, etc of F:NV and it's DLCs is all Bethesda.

Eh, I honestly don't mind about the DLC waits... just makes playing them all the sweeter.

Look up Luke Smiths drawing of "Assembly" it was a Halo 3 map and it was close to a month and a half away from the release date. Obviously his drawing and the actual map are a lot different but you can a get basic idea of what the map looks like. for those who don't know Luke Smith works for Bungie, in the marketing area I think. Not a very good artist but that is what is called throwing the fans a bone.

However, I do appreciate the trailer from qore however I'm not a PS3 owner I have an xbox 360 and a PC (obviously) but I don't like that I have to look up PS3 QORE Old world Blues trailer on youtube. The other side of that is I doubt anybody from xbox live came to your pad and asked for a trailer. Did you schedule a meeting with qore or did they just stop by and were like "yo can we haz cheeze burger" but you said no but "you can haz OWB interview!!!"

I never took Obsidian very seriously and have next to no respect for them as developers.
But if it wasn't for Obsidian, Fallout wouldn't exist... However I think the future of Fallout needs to be left in the hands of professionals; The Bethesda dev team.
Their next project after Skyrim will hopefully be Fallout 4...

Wait what? There's a trailer? HOW IS THAT NOT IN BOLD LETTERS?

The trailers so far have been dissapointing with NV, but we've got two good dlcs. With F3 we got some amazing trailers (I still love the Point Lookout and Mothership Zeta trailers) and hit and miss dlcs.

IMO anyways. Seems to be a trend.

I dunno I really like NV more than I did FO3 its just that the DLC has been handled poorly.

I liked Fallout 3, it was a great FPS RPG but Fallout New Vegas I think is lacking in the FPS department. Not that I want cowboys shooting indians on the Strip or anything like that and I understand that NV is largely an RPG but in Fallout 3 it felt like they mixed the perfect amount of RP/exploration with FPS. I do like every aspect of NV especially the fact that you can actually join Caesars Legion and it wasn't half arshed like in Fallout 3, Help the Enclave! Reward: Shot to death.

You should know that Bethesda handles all the marketing and decides when to put out trailers. Not slamming Bethesda I think they are a very good company but you shouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions about obsidian.

Bethesda Softworks handle the day releases and all that stuff, they are the publishers and announcers, not Obsidian






Why you play NV then if you have no respect for the devs?



Professional?, I dont doubt that, but...

Fallout 3 wasnt the fine piece of diamond in the beginning, neither was Oblivion, or Morrowind, and Daggerfall (empashis on Dagerfall), until they patched it, who taked soo long

I have trouble calling any team with Todd Howard on it "professional", his opinions on what makes a good game are really bad and immature.

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Bethesda Softworks handle the day releases and all that stuff, they are the publishers and announcers, not Obsidian






Why you play NV then if you have no respect for the devs?



How would I know unless I played it?

Way to fail at the generic internet forum response: "Why do it if you don't like it?" :rofl:

I could care less about trailers or any "promo" type stuff for the DLC's. I just care about the quality of the actual release, and have enjoyed the dlc's so far for NV.

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Exactly. but I see that people like to put Bethesda on a pedestal, when there is still some quarreling between the old and new Bethesda Fanbase

Since there are over 100 fixes in the latest up coming patch I think its safe to say the are/were trying to fix the game more.

I bet alot of the people that cry about release dates are the same ones that post bugs and glitches in the dlc thread. Fo3 was fixed long before dlc ever came out. This game had some nasty bugs in it. Ones that are hard to find/fix. They have apparently made it a goal of theirs to fix this game.

IMO they won t give release dates months in advance because they are trying to fix the game. They did say one would be out this month and next month. I thought we would get a trailer this week, but we didn t. When there is a game update then you will know it is close.

Do you want them to work on fixing the game on release dlc into a messed up game. Then you can make big posts that say "RIPOFF", and talk about how all they want is money.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!! You would make a fine Legionary in the Legion of Toaster.

That is how evil people work. You could help the Enclave kill you and get control of the purifier. You can do both by giving them the code. Thankfully you couldn t force the Enclave into loving you. That would have been stupid. Enclave isn t really into mutants...... You are a mutant to them.

Seems a little too fantastic to me that a group that sees me as nothing but a "wasterol" would let me back pack them. No one ever asks you to join cl either. You are just a rouge agent.......

Not really. As far as the Enclave knows the Lone Wanderer is born in Vault 101 and is as much pure human as they are, unpolluted by radiation and mutation. They don't know the LW was actually born at Project Purity, so they don't see you as a mutant.

Just like to add with fallout 3 DLC PS3 users got [censored] over for months by that [censored] exclusivity deal. At least with Fallout New Vegas it was only the first DLC.

But its true, its all to Bethesda Sodtworks, they are credited as publishers

This could be very true. Depends how extensive their surveillance tech was, and how much they looked into the purifier as it was being built.