Odd theories, bad science and crack-pot ideas i've read over

Post » Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:44 pm

Hi everyone,

Bit of an odd thread this one, i've always had an interest in the weirder side of frontier physics without really having the ability to understand any of the more well known functioning physics, over the years i've read many strange and wonderful theories in various places and those have been the ones that have fascinated me most, a few of them i even read in the more serious publications like new scientist.

I'd really like to pick your brains and ask you all if you think any of the ones i'm going to try and remember are possible, my problem is that after so many years i've lost the terminology for them, unable to remember the correct names for various atoms and molecules in question, i've been left with the general gist of the ideas, so i'm afraid they may be rather confusing, but it's worth a shot to satisfy my curiousity.


Here are some of the weird ideas/experiments i have heard of over the years.


1. Memory molecules, atoms, thingamibobs.

Okay, i'm afraid i don't remember the name of the molecule in question but it is supposed to be tiny, i read somewhere that the universe is made up of these and that they are all rubbing up against one other and leaving a small print/indentation on each other as they pass by, the theory was that if you had a computer powerful enough, (that possibly would have to be outside the universe) you'd be able to read the patterns on these things and unravel history.

In other words, the ability to decipher them and read where every last atom had been would be possible with said computer, meaning our own existence and every last action, along with that of both living and dead matter could be known, right up to the big bang, meaning the universe kept a sort of permanent record of everything that had gone on in inside it through those tiny atoms.


2. Mysterious learning.

This one involves the weird idea that somehow creatures learn a certain skill in groups, but that they don't necessarily have to be in contact with one another for it to happen, so for example if one group of chimps in one part of the world learns how to crack a hard nut by using a rock, suddenly groups of chimps all over the world immediately start doing the same thing, it also stretched to inventions, apparently according to what i read there have been many times where the same invention has been invented by many people at the same time without any knowledge of each others work.


3. Vibrations.

Another one i read many years ago was that the entire universe is vibrating, that physical objects, the atoms in them are all vibrating at different speeds/waves, and that it is the type of vibration that determines whether they are solid matter or not and what type of matter they are, and that should these tiny things stop vibrating they would pop out of existence, which in a round about way would mean if the atoms in your body stopped vibrating, you'd cease to exist.


4. Same atom, different places.

Pretty simple this one, i read somewhere that the same atom/molecule/tiny thing can appear and disappear anywhere, and sometimes exist in two different places at the same time.


5. Quantum computer.

Some time ago i saw a program where a professor in a boston university (i think it was boston) was playing around with a quantum computer, from what i understood of the program it seems this computer was doing infinite numbers of calculations at the same time which is kind of baffling to our idea of a finite world, it shouldn't be possible, only problem was he couldn't control the questions, so he was getting answers for stuff he hadn't asked for.


6. Faster than light.

I read somewhere that a scientist had fired a molecule/atom down a tube and made it go faster than light, that was a good 7-8 years ago and i heard nothing about it ever since.


7. The other world.

this a recent one, i read that there is another dimension that is populated by dark space/matter that is completely and utterly divorced from our own reality except for one link, gravity, and that it is through gravity alone that we know this weird place exists because gravity is the only concept of our own reality that interacts with this strange place.


8. Other dimensions.

I read somewhere that there are other dimensions with their own universes.


Well, that's pretty much all i remember at the moment, please let me know what you think of any of them, whether they are rubbish or if they have a chance of being real, also if you have any odd theories you've read about over the years i'd love to hear about them :tops:
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:30 am

The most helpful thing I can do is refer you to a really great science/astronomy forum that also has a conspiracy section, the http://www.bautforum.com/. Bad Astronomy is a blog run by the awesome Phil Plait where he occasionally debunks bad astronomy, so don't worry about the name. The community on the forum is largely skeptical and proven-science-minded (my kind of people), but most are really nice and wont rip you apart if you simply ask about fringe ideas like you're doing now.

I can try and answer a few questions myself though.

1. Nope :P

2. Nope :P

3 & 4. I think I know what you're talking about but for the life of me I can't remember the proper terminology.

5. Quantum computing is real but we're far from being able to do anything like what you just described.

6. Well, Tachyons are hypothetical faster-than-light particles that hypothetically can't slow down to subluminal speeds. But we currently don't know of any way to go faster than light using current technologies, and any theory on how to do it is still, and will be for a long time, hypothetical. The cosmos are depressingly vast and so far we only know how to go depressingly slow.

7. We may live in a Multiverse, where our universe is just a single bubble among an infinite number of universes. There may also be parallel universes created every time you make a decision, with the decisions you didn't make playing out in a parallel universe, if you believe the many-worlds interpretation. But any multiple universe/ parallel universe theory is impossible to prove at the present time.

8. If String Theory is correct, there can be 10 or 11 or even more dimensions. But they wouldn't be like parallel worlds as you may be thinking of. If there are more dimensions, then they exist all around us but we just can't interact with them. But String Theory is just a theory, like any other theory regarding stuff like this, and scientists, let along conspiracy theorists, wont know for sure what's correct for who knows how long, if ever.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:04 am

The most helpful thing I can do is refer you to a really great science/astronomy forum that also has a conspiracy section, the http://www.bautforum.com/. Bad Astronomy is a blog run by the awesome Phil Plait where he occasionally debunks bad astronomy, so don't worry about the name. The community on the forum is largely skeptical and proven-science-minded (my kind of people), but most are really nice and wont rip you apart if you simply ask about fringe ideas like you're doing now.

I can try and answer a few questions myself though.

1. Nope :P

2. Nope :P

3 & 4. I think I know what you're talking about but for the life of me I can't remember the proper terminology.

5. Quantum computing is real but we're far from being able to do anything like what you just described.

6. Well, Tachyons are hypothetical faster-than-light particles that hypothetically can't slow down to subluminal speeds. But we currently don't know of any way to go faster than light using current technologies, and any theory on how to do it is still, and will be for a long time, hypothetical. The cosmos are depressingly vast and so far we only know how to go depressingly slow.

7. We may live in a Multiverse, where our universe is just a single bubble among an infinite number of universes. There may also be parallel universes created every time you make a decision, with the decisions you didn't make playing out in a parallel universe, if you believe the many-worlds interpretation. But any multiple universe/ parallel universe theory is impossible to prove at the present time.

8. If String Theory is correct, there can be 10 or 11 or even more dimensions. But they wouldn't be like parallel worlds as you may be thinking of. If there are more dimensions, then they exist all around us but we just can't interact with them. But String Theory is just a theory, like any other theory regarding stuff like this, and scientists, let along conspiracy theorists, wont know for sure what's correct for who knows how long, if ever.


That is awesome thank you very much :tops: I'm a bit sad the first one isn't real, i would have liked the thought that we were remembered by the universe even if we had died and passed on, but i guess it's not possible.
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Post » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:50 pm

That is awesome thank you very much :tops: I'm a bit sad the first one isn't real, i would have liked the thought that we were remembered by the universe even if we had died and passed on, but i guess it's not possible.

I did read something about black holes possibly retaining a "memory" of what they ate. But then again it was a book trying to explain theoretical science in layman's terms to someone who only had at best a tenuous grasp of the concepts involved, so I may have misunderstood...
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:34 am


4. Same atom, different places.

Pretty simple this one, i read somewhere that the same atom/molecule/tiny thing can appear and disappear anywhere, and sometimes exist in two different places at the same time.

IIRC this book: http://www.amazon.com/Parallel-Worlds-Journey-Creation-Dimensions/dp/0385509863 deals with this sort of thing. Again, IIRC when something moves, it moves along the line that is "most likely" to outward observers.

You might find this interesting - light acting in two different ways depending on how and when it is observed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2N4SbORKh8
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Post » Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:22 pm

I did read something about black holes possibly retaining a "memory" of what they ate. But then again it was a book trying to explain theoretical science in layman's terms to someone who only had at best a tenuous grasp of the concepts involved, so I may have misunderstood...

I think I may have heard that too, I think it was something to do with an image being kept in the event horizon...
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:24 am

IIRC this book: http://www.amazon.com/Parallel-Worlds-Journey-Creation-Dimensions/dp/0385509863 deals with this sort of thing. Again, IIRC when something moves, it moves along the line that is "most likely" to outward observers.

You might find this interesting - light acting in two different ways depending on how and when it is observed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2N4SbORKh8


Very interesting indeed, thank you very much :)

I did read something about black holes possibly retaining a "memory" of what they ate. But then again it was a book trying to explain theoretical science in layman's terms to someone who only had at best a tenuous grasp of the concepts involved, so I may have misunderstood...


That reminds me, i also heard that in the centre of a black hole is a new colour that no one has ever seen, i think that was from red dwarf :laugh:
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