I didnt know someone could make something so simple so complicated! Personally I dont find the learning curve that hard especially since Ive played previous Elder Scrolls.

Oblivion was fine as far as the guide. I enjoy using them only for games like this basically cuz Im O.C. and I like doing every single main side and misc quest possible for one character.

Basically wut the hell is going on with this guide. Im finding it harder to break down the guide with areas and side and misc quests then actually play the game. Theyve made this difficult for someone like me to enjoy doing every quest. I think Ill be better off not even using it.

And as far as the levelin system I definitly like it more then previous but what am I suppose to do if I miss a low level dungeon and find it at a higher level? Do I jus walk trough and maul everything? Doesnt sound challanging...

Im having mixed feelings with the overwelming amount of dialog people and places and a strategy guide that doesnt break it down well... anyone else that uses guides having this problem? Maybe I need more patience with the guide...

This guide is awesome, I struggle to see how it could possible be made better, tons of info all really well laid out and I've yet to find any errors yet. So well written too, you can really see how much effort has got into its creation.

To find something I need then use the index, takes like a twenty seconds and you have the page ref. Sections for everything's, play styles, skills, quests, locations, standing stones. I really don't understand what other layout would be better?.

Keep in mind its a guide and not a walk though. You dont want the guide to give too much away. Also, the guide is not meant for you to open it and go page by page in the guide and play the game.
Its meant for you to play the game, and if you get stuck look up that quest in the guide to help you out.

To me guides seem kind of obsolete today with the internet and all....But maybe thats just me.

Of course it is, but some people prefer reading a "real" book. And some may not have an active internet connection 24/7. It's more environmentally friendly to buy digital copies of games and get all stuff inc. art books and guides, in digital format. But as I said, it's not the same as having a a real physical copy of something...

You know there's both a table of contents and an index... right?

My only complaint was that when I got my guide 100 pages were in the wrong place. So it went 253, 254, 412, 413........ 527, 255.
Gamestop replaced it for me.



Really? The locations level to you the first time you walk in. So if you walked in every dung at lvl 1 they would not be interesting at lvl 50, but if you don't then a location you go at lvl 10 will have lvl 10 enemies, lvl 20=20, 50=50. My only complaint is that they don't respawn.

Pretty much what I told my wife when she purchased it with the game. I have yet to use it.

I'm one of those nerds who prefer the printed page (I got a Kindle for Christmas last year that I almost never use, as I really enjoy the feel and smell of books). And I agree; the guide is very good and quite hard to use at the same time. There's a lot of good information in there, but the writing's tiny (a common complaint as I get older, lol). It's also not perfect; I know for a fact that some of it's potion recipes (or at least what it says the ingredients do) aren't correct. But overall, it's well worth the money.

The worse thing about the guide is that I can't read it. Even with reading glasses the print is too small and it's a pain trying to use a magnifying glass.

I agree with the OP. The strategy guide, while having alot of information and very nicely put together, is very hard to go through and understand at times. Should have been more simplier, like Morrowind's and Oblivion's.

Guides take the adventure out of the game. How can a game possibly be fun if you have all the answers? Besides the wiki and forums are much better than any guide anyway as it doesn't take bugs or updates into consideration.

Guide? On a TES game? Learning by doing is what i say

Keep in mind that this is a guide and not a walkthrough. There is a difference, believe it or not.

i stopped using brady game guides when i wasted a hour looking in a area for something that was in the opposite area that the guide said...that big of a mistake made me say fux guides

Wouldn't that make it valuable?! Misprints etc. can be worth good money.

I know even the map pages are kinda like WTF!?!? am I reading.....LOL
The whole beginning sections are pointless. I can figure out a build myself, I don't need examples FFS and other little things annoy me with it. I just want the basic information. Even the guides have become hand holding IMO.

Yea Oblivion was easy as hell as far as their guide. I kno theres an index but I shouldnt have to use it THAT much. I guess it is pretty good but the small text is prolly one of the things that irratates me. I would have liked if they had it broke down section with misc quests so i wouldnt have to look at every zone and wut quests are in it.

Mainly my problem is patience with reading. Ive gotten so use to recent RPGs that i can basically search an area flip over every little rock and can feel confident theres absolutley nothing else in that area to discover without having to look at a book or online.

i found some errors shortly into the beginning of the game when leveling alchemy. i crossed out like 12 ingredients at the end of the alchemy section where it lists what ingredients have the same effect. the ingredients were listed as having "damage magicka" but actually either had "lingering damage magicka" or "damage magicka regen". that was pretty annoying. there's also some things not matching up between the guide and the game for skill level requirements for the master spell quests.

I also wish that during the main quest walkthrough section it said every last side mission and misc quest in that area and all surrounding dungeons. I think that would b perfect.

I'm O.C too and I get seriously stressed the second I lose control of things. I tried playing with the guide, but for me it made it even worse.
I think I've spent more time in Skyrim actually figuring out what to do than actually doing it.

Finally someone that feels jus like me!!!! lol

Just use the guide as a reference. Play the game.
It's one of the best written and compiled guide/resource ever.
But it aint going to hold your hand...dont be a pussie...play the gamelike a man (or a woman).

My strategy guide: http://www.uesp.net/

Most of the information you get about games online is given by a person who has the guide... In my experience anyways. I've been able to help out plenty of people on forums by looking in the guide.

edit* it's also easier to have the guide next to me while I play in case I need it, rather than my laptop.