There was the same article last time but it turned out to be [censored], but, what about now?

http://www.science20.com/quantum_diaries_survivor/opera_confirms_neutrinos_travel_faster_light-84763

I have no idea what this means, and what neutrinos are, but man - they travel faster than light!

I'll need to watch The Big Bang Theory to understand this...

Yeah but I bet it can't move faster than two lights.

Okay, fess up. Who broke the universe?

Don't look at me I didn't do it this time it was the guy over there *pokes doomsday device under the blanket*.

Seriously though this isn't unexpected in the world of science to be honest as there were always theories about particles moving faster than the speed of light. For a long time the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon was thought to exist being a particle that could move faster than the speed of light. My only problem is with the current plausible thought line you can send messages into the past making me wonder if there will be new laws created out of fear. Can just see governments saying "no research into time travel" due to fear it would cause problems, cascading events, paradoxes, etc... .

Too late for that, I saw some one with a delorian the other day.

Whoa, hold your horses there. Nothing has been confirmed yet. They just took another measurement, and messed up again. If you look at the top update, it shows that if they missed up by just one tick of the clock the velocity would be the speed of light. This will not lead to anything, except for the scientists performing this experiment to look very silly indeed.

It could of course be that the universe isn't 3D? Avoids time travel problems.

The update was posted after I created the thread. Not that I know what any of this means though. :laugh:

Basically some scientist blinked and missed something so they have to perform the experiment again.



Bah they're just wannabe time travelers thinking the DeLorean is a cool car perfect for time travel. Real travelers go through naked into the tunnel with no fear of what happens. bliviongate:

It was me. :whistling: I figured out what happens when an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object. (and it ain't Chuck Norris)

I'm much more interested in seeing the travel time between two neutrino detectors in the path of the neutrino, rather than the time between the origin and a single detector.

Neutrino is the anti-matter equivalent of neutron, i beleive? And this is another great step for science. Well, theoretical physics, not so much for the common man. Yet :hehe:

Edit: or another great, hasty news report before all facts are checked :whistling:

From the article:

So yeah, cool additional evidence, but it's still best to wait for another group to assess things before you run around yelling anything about confirmation.

In addition, if I have my facts straight, the test was performed with the same equipment, meaning there is still room for systemic error. Last I heard, there are some people planning to reproduce the test in Japan, which should clear up some doubts or disprove this.

Reproduce the Philadelphia experiment.., then I'll be impressed.




Neutrino's taking cosmic shortcuts around the track.. not so excited about :confused:

Good that sci-fi got some more backing. However, for humans this is little of use, due to time dilation we will not make much fun out of FTL.

Now I wouldn't say that there's always a way around things even though we just can't see the forest for the trees. I'm thinking there's more implications here where we could potentially do FTL if it were coupled with wormhole technology creating some kind of stable localized time bubble. This acting as a shield around the occupants of said ship so that they don't age into dust. As for returning home that can be remedied with a jump back to the point you left acting as if you never left.

Many particles can travel faster then light in a medium (for example electrons in water - this is used to detect those rare neutrino hits).
Einstein was a clever person, but his special/general theory was based on decades old empirical data.
Nowadays we observe super nova accelerating away (perhaps Halflive II dark energy ) so more then just gravity may be involved in the cosmic puzzle.
So not entirely surprised by c-violation of particles in vacuum (but not yet convinced either).