Paarthurnax is Evil....

Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:00 am

well in the game you are not exactley the most good citizen are you??? :devil: :bunny:
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asako
 
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:37 pm

There is evil and there is evil and there is EVIL. Just like there is GOOD and good and good. From the view point of some one in the good/evil area both GOOD and EVIL look pretty much the same. Their motives may be different, but their methods usually involve oppression and lack of freedom of choice.

What you do about this depends upon your code and how rigid your own code is. It is very very rare that you'll find someone who is completely evil. Just like it is equally as rare that you'll find someone who is completely good. My own character is too self-motivated to worry about such trivia. She's found a home in the DB with a caring mother, a mad brother, a dark brother, and a sister child of the night, and a horse who cares about her more than anyone ever has. So, she's killed over 600 people in the game which averages out to 5/game hr. Yes in her mind they were all bad. So who is she to judge Paarth?
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:59 pm

Wow, Mask... Your Mom did'nt hug you much as a child, did she? World domination? Delphine "Bowing" before you?

You need a plate of cookies, a glass of warm milk, and to sit down for a while and think about what you are doing. Shame on you, Dohvakin, shame on you!

:smile:


lol.....Its just a game.


Honestly, most of my Characters are good.... A few play throughs and its makes being evil so much easier and enjoyable.



Try it yourself...lol
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Kathryn Medows
 
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:49 am

There is evil and there is evil and there is EVIL. Just like there is GOOD and good and good. From the view point of some one in the good/evil area both GOOD and EVIL look pretty much the same. Their motives may be different, but their methods usually involve oppression and lack of freedom of choice.

What you do about this depends upon your code and how rigid your own code is. It is very very rare that you'll find someone who is completely evil. Just like it is equally as rare that you'll find someone who is completely good. My own character is too self-motivated to worry about such trivia. She's found a home in the DB with a caring mother, a mad brother, a dark brother, and a sister child of the night, and a horse who cares about her more than anyone ever has. So, she's killed over 600 people in the game which averages out to 5/game hr. Yes in her mind they were all bad. So who is she to judge Paarth?



Meh,.... When you are evil, you don't judge. You are proud of it.


......ANd you gotta laugh like this.

Muaaa..Muahaa,, MuahahHaaAa
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:15 am

My point was that it all depends on what your main character choices are.

If your Dragon born is true evil... Then eveything anyone does only helps you with your evil cause. The foools.....

So, with my true EVIL dragnborn... The blades are useless since they only want to help people.

Parthurnaxx on the other hand, only wants to help my EVIL dragon born fullfill his hunger for power and death.

Basically, hes helping the bad guy BE the best damn bad guy he can be.





Of course its different for my other characters since i only have one evil Dragon Born...
Hate to break it to ya, buddy, but you just saved the lives of everyone in the world. Alduin isn't called "world eater" for funsies.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:17 pm

Yeah, but even odahviing says you're the new Alduin. What you do about it is up in the air.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:37 am

Paarthurnax has done plenty of redeeming. If you talk to him about killing him, he makes the statement to NEVER trust a Dovah. Next question is to trust that and go against him or not trust him but believe him. Hard choice right?

As for your Evil planning, the Greybeards and Paarthurnax do not care for the world below. You can be the Slayer of Millions and they don't know and don't care. You're Dovahkiin, that is all the excuse that you need to get away with things for them.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:42 pm

Hate to break it to ya, buddy, but you just saved the lives of everyone in the world. Alduin isn't called "world eater" for funsies.


Alduin .....Made the mistake of not bowing down to me. lol...

Ya i saved to the world... And now its alll mine.

MUahahAAaAAAaa...
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:45 pm

Paarthurnax has done plenty of redeeming. If you talk to him about killing him, he makes the statement to NEVER trust a Dovah. Next question is to trust that and go against him or not trust him but believe him. Hard choice right?

As for your Evil planning, the Greybeards and Paarthurnax do not care for the world below. You can be the Slayer of Millions and they don't know and don't care. You're Dovahkiin, that is all the excuse that you need to get away with things for them.


Yes.... People who don't care make my evil ways that much easier to pull off.


Its like being a arsonist and burning down your neighbours while you just sit there and watch.. THANKS BRO!!


Whats even better is the greybeards/Parthurnaxx didn't just sit there and watch it burn.. They gave my some matches and gasoline to help me burn it faster.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:05 pm

My point was that it all depends on what your main character choices are.

If your Dragon born is true evil... Then eveything anyone does only helps you with your evil cause. The foools.....

So, with my true EVIL dragnborn... The blades are useless since they only want to help people.

Parthurnaxx on the other hand, only wants to help my EVIL dragon born fullfill his hunger for power and death.

Basically, hes helping the bad guy BE the best damn bad guy he can be.





Of course its different for my other characters since i only have one evil Dragon Born...

Deosn't neccissarily make them evil, ignorant or cowards perhaps.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:37 am

Deosn't neccissarily make them evil, ignorant or cowards perhaps.

Grey beard are indeed cowards..

But Parthurnaxx is a back stabbing little worm... I like that. Thats why i let him live to serve me...lol.


Thing is parthurnaxx invited me over. He smelled my lust and hunger for power. He could have just sat back an did nothing.. But NooOo.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:43 pm

Good luck with your murderous rampage! :)
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:59 pm

Good luck with your murderous rampage! :smile:


lol... Thanks my evil brotha...



MuahhA!!!
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:07 am

OP, you have the same view as Delphine and Esbern, which is completely idiotic, IMO. To be unable to forgive someone for their wrong doings no matter how hard they try to redeem themselves... He gave mankind the power of the Thu'um so they could defeat Alduin, FFS!

He's not just a "backstabber"; he saw that Alduin was abusing his power and needed to be stopped, so he did whatever he could to stop Alduin. It's not like he was ever on Alduin's side. Dragon's didn't have a choice when Alduin was in charge; it was either follow Alduin or die. This is why all of the dragons show up at the Throat of the World after you kill Alduin. They are thanking Dovakiin for taking Alduin out of power and freeing them.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:22 am

All the deep redemption/philosophical stuff aside, I'm more curious about the implications of what each choice would bring. If you're an ally with the Blades, does that make a future TES with more delving into Akaviri lore possible? Or if you side with Paarth, does that give the TES world more flavor by maybe having different factions of dragons around, some hostile, some who want to listen to Paarth, etc??

Or does all of it simply mean nothing...
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:44 am

OP, you have the same view as Delphine and Esbern, which is completely idiotic, IMO. To be unable to forgive someone for their wrong doings no matter how hard they try to redeem themselves... He gave mankind the power of the Thu'um so they could defeat Alduin, FFS!


ooooh,, kaaaaaaay...lol


My Evil dragon Born goes around killing everybody for FUN! I love mass murder and mass destuction.

And you say i have the same view as Delphine...LMAO.

I think you are the wrong thread their buddy.



Im evil, i don't wanna forgive anyone. If they don't help with my lust for power and eath il kill them or make them squirm...

And you think im the idiot.... FoooL!!!



MuahhA
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:15 pm

I'm playing as a hero and I've probably killed more people than Parth ever did.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:35 am



He's not just a "backstabber"; he saw that Alduin was abusing his power and needed to be stopped, so he did whatever he could to stop Alduin. It's not like he was ever on Alduin's side. Dragon's didn't have a choice when Alduin was in charge; it was either follow Alduin or die. This is why all of the dragons show up at the Throat of the World after you kill Alduin. They are thanking Dovakiin for taking Alduin out of power and freeing them.

In my game they all bow down to ME the new WORLD EATER!!! They are not thanking me but begging me NOT to slay them all because my power is not to be shared.

And yes, hes a backstabber. He new this day would come so he jumped ship early. This is why i let him live. But i know he'll jump [censored] when the time comes.


Hes like my own ..StarScream
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:11 pm

Yeah, I would agree. This guy is more evil than Delphine. lol

What's funny is that Esbern and Delphine are both pissed off about the dominion and the banning of Talos as any Stormcloak Nord are, care about dragons burninating everyone, and don't care either way who wins the civil war. They're pretty tame really.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:47 am

Yeah, I would agree. This guy is more evil than Delphine. lol

What's funny is that Esbern and Delphine are both pissed off about the dominion and the banning of Talos as any Stormcloak Nord are, care about dragons burninating everyone, and don't care either way who wins the civil war. They're pretty tame really.


Evil is fun.


Even every murder I did for the Dark Brother i did in the most brutal non stealthy way possible....

I didn't just kill the emporer.. I killed him, stripped him naked , dead thralled him and walked around Solitude as a level 4 vampire killing everyone and everything who dare try to be a hero.

MuahhaA..
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:47 pm

parth helped you, because he is scripted to do so.


glad if i destroyed this weird thread.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:14 am

Parthurnaxx knows this yet he helps me anyways.

Because to Paarthurnax, making things right is more important than your petty mortal squabbles.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:20 pm

Paarthurnax lives because he's a frigging' dragon, acting as my ally. A dragon > a few human misers calling themselves the Blades. It's simple, really.

Besides, Delphine was only able to give commands to me, never showing anything like gratefulness or even proposing to help. No, I had to do everything on my own.
And Esbern? I saved that bastard's life from the Thalmor in the ratway, brought him together with his last surviving little Blades friend, provided both him and Delphine a safe haven with MY blood, and what do I get? "Oh nooooo, you saved exactly one non-agressive dragon after killing a gazillion of dangerous ones, so now I'll hate you. Don't come back, as Delphine has thrown you out of what is actually YOUR temple, and I will not provide any help even if it is to kill dangerous dragons and save innocent lives. That's how much of a stupid little kid I really am."

Well Esbern proved Paarthumax right, didn't they. You don't really run the Blades. The Blades just want you to think you do. Remember you nice long conversation with Paarthumax?
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:35 pm

I don't know if Paarthurnax is making things right, more than just avoiding trouble.

Ulfric tries to make more right than he does. Misguided though he may be.

The Greybeards are like many eastern philosophies, which aren't about right or wrong, and more about just "being". He is so not hung up on right or wrong that he doesn't even care if you kill him.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:51 pm

Paarthurnax is helping you because you're the only one who can stop Alduin and thus prevent the end of the world. No matter how evil the dovahkiin is, it's the lesser evil. The Greybeards take a fatalistic approach- if you're evil, maybe you're meant to be.
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