So I buy this and now I get a whole new slew of bugs added to the game. One being I cannot upgrade my ****ing house in Whiterun. I don't know why I waste my money on the trash you make. Seriously, I'd like to drive my fist through your teeth.

Fool you once, shame on them. Fool you twice, shame on you.

You bought Dawnguard fully knowing the track record of Bethesda (Never mind its been near flawless for me), so only you are to blame.

Sorry Echonite but I really disagree with what you said.

It is Anzurok's fault that there are bugs inside the DLC that mess up his game?
Bethesda should have released a more stable version of this dlc when they wanted it to go Live.
So Bethesda should better release a decent patch to fix Dawnguard.

The DLC has a lot of wonderful new stuff to the Skyrim Experience, but game breaking bugs like that really ruin it.

The breezehome alchemy bug has been widely reported almost daily on this here forums since DG release on 360. Its a minor problem you can workaround.

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Yeah, god forbid Bethesda actually fix a problem that's been reported daily since Dawnguard released a month and a half ago. Wouldn't want anyone to start thinking they actually give a [censored].

Dawnguard was released on the 360 a month and a half ago not the PC.

We all know the buggy state that any new Elder Scrolls games come out in. It's awlays been the case. When you have such massive worlds with hunderds of hours of gameplay and AI/Quests/Scripts running all over the place, it's impossible to squash every bug there is first time round. When you add to the fact that everyone's PC setup is different the task becomes even more monumental.

You know what you're getting into if you buy on day 1 of release. I personally wait for a few months for patches to come out and then pick it up cheap during the steam sales.

Im new to skyrim and never played them before. If i BUY something its supposed to work 1st time. I didnt know about the bad record or anything else, but ive never seen a more unstable retail release in the last 30 yrs of gaming as skyrim and dawnguard.

So is that my problem for not researching the game beforehand ?

Simple fact is the company runs the betas before release .. and makes sure there arent bugs. Now, we can accept the possibilities with all the quests etc, but Dawnguard is a small release well after skyrim was released .. so they have had time to run and test it before release, and from the amount of CTDS at the very beginning of the quest process, id say they went for the quick buck.

If you wish to wait for 6 mnths or so that is your perogative, but i purchased skyrim based on the advertising and look of the game, as did many others ... and its been a joke ever since.

It is kind of. I awlays research a game fully before I lay down ￡35-40 of my own money on it. I read the reviews regarding the game and the problems that people were having. That's why I waited.

I do agree with you 100% that games should not be released in this state. It's a sad state of affairs that game devs now think along the lines of release now, fix later. Before consoles and PC's had access to a fast internet connection, they had to release their game in a state as close to bug free as possible. With Bethesda in particular, they know how big their games are and should devot more time to bug testing. Sadly, people are still willing to pay for the game on Day 1. I especially feel sorry for the people who bough the PS3 copy. Two of my friends were hit with the slowdown/stuttering bug which made the game unplayable after sinking more than 20+ hours of their life into the game.

The only saving grace with Bethesda games is the mod community. I've found fixes to some problems I've had on the mod sites.

yeah i managed to play dawngaurd for one hour, it bugged and i couldnt interact with the vampires for quests because "mortals cannot roam freely in the castle" evben tho i had just became a lord ?_?.. so i came out of the game and now i just get error code 51 no matter what i do, just finished reinstalling the entire game and im really p***** because its done nothing...

We live in a world owned by bankers and corporations, and our figureheads are nothing more than puppets. It is no surprise to me that each generation is programmed more each time, to bend over and accept whatever "they" choose to give you. You are a mere slave who should be grateful that a business is willing to take your money in exchange for a broken product. Be thankful and how dare you complain that you just spent 60$ + 20$ for a shoddy game. You are NOTHING. Yes, folks. We are headed for the New World Order. Welcome to the future. 1984. And no, I'm not trolling. I'm dead serious. Take a seat and think about what you're saying. You're either a paid shill for Bethesda, which is not uncommon because Electronic Arts does it all the time--stick around the forums and crack down on anyone who complains about bugs or a subpar game--yes, that's no really devoted fan, that's a paid shill.

No, I will not shut up. Bethesda will fix the game, or I will get a refund. End of discussion.

Yeah, none of those will happen. Sorry.

Ok, I'm not about to get into a serious discussion about that view here but anyways: you're acting as if Beth doesn't react to the fanbase. They do. Even though it usually takes a lot to get them to act, they do act.

Large software projects in general are rarely released bugfree. That's the nature of software. If all the bugs were hammered out before a release for most pieces of software, they'd never see the light of day. Hell, some issues are not even discovered until some user does something a dev didn't think of.

This has nothing to do at all with people being controlled by corporations. That's a discussion for elsewhere, not for these boards at all.

So... The whole game is broken because you can't buy the alchemy lab for your Whiterun home? I can understand your frustration. I can't get the alchemy lab, either. But come on. There's no way they're going to leave this, and other major bugs, unfixed. Have some patience.

You really think in a game of this size and scope they could get rid of every little bug? Do you know that there are an unlimited combination of events that can occur in succession to produce a bug? How can you expect a dev to foresee every little thing? What are they supposed to download every single mod and test it with each one? Maybe hire more people to bug test it? Even then it is almost pointless because some bugs happen for very specific reasons, they require specific things to happen to trigger them. What better way to test for bugs than to release the game and allow the consumer to report what is happening? Then you have millions of people "testing" you can fix the most common problems right away and work on the smaller ones as you go. It takes time to fix bugs have some patience and you will be playing Dawnguard almost bug free. I have a bug where the crossbow is held in the fist as if fighting hand to hand and attacking just does the shield bash animation. Since equipping the crossbow I find that any sword I equip either does not draw when I try to take it out or it turns invisible along with the spell I had equipped. I just reloaded to a point before I equipped the Cbow and I am waiting eagerly for future bug fixes.

The alchemy lab part shouldn't be a problem for any pc player. All you have to do is type player.placeatme (alchemy lab id.) Bam, problem solved.

Stop making excuses for Bethesda. Also telling people to try untested fixes might break their game even more.

Bethesda needs to address this

Would you buy a second car from a company with a track record of selling broken cars? Would you buy computer parts from a company who is known to make bad parts? Would you accept that stick of gum from a friend knowing that the past 5 times, they spit on them? Same applies here. Why would you buy something from someone a second time, when they messed up the first time? That is just plane stupidity.

And that said, Dawnguard worked fine for me from start to end.

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Thats well and good if you can actually play it,. Most of us understand the bug thing and how they pop, but to get a release
that doesn't work at all for a lot of people is not right. There has to be some quality control, ok so you have to disable your mods
and load one at a time, that we handle, a warning about 4096x4096 textures being to large, that we would handle, if you have a body replacer
it will break your game warning, that we could handle.

But honestly push out a crap DLC and not a word,. sit back in their tower of glass watching the frustration and NOT a WORD
That's to hard to handle people need some feedback from them as to whats happening, we need some supportive answers as to
how we might get round these issues to actually play it, playing buggy is one thing,. game breaking is totally another and needs a
response fast so the game can be at least played while the fix happens

To much about the money and to many sort cuts quality's going down the flusher sadly

So.. did i get this right? you're the one mentioning Bethesda has a bad track reccord etc, and then go buy game yourself, and add that it's stupidity to the same sentence.. Funny! Tag! You're it!

No, i was referencing the OP's claim that Bethesda makes trash. If he feels that he wasted money on "trash" known as Skyrim, then why did he fork over another $20 for Dawnguard?

Personally, I think their games are no worse then any other game.I rarely have problems with BethesdaGS games.

Heard about you and your honeyed words.

Same here, this is my first game breaking problem with a Beth Game. I have been playing since Morrowind came out. I have over 300 hours logged into Skyrim, bought it at midnight (360) when it came out and have not had a single game breaking bug that everyone reports. I don't even know how many hours I have into Morrowind but I bought it when it came out on the xbox and got it for PC shortly after and I still play it now. Oblivion easily kept me busy for over 1000 hours. Just saying IDK how people get so many bugs but this is my first.

I get bugs and that I can deal with but when you make a game unplayable and break the game then I believe it is all your fault. I mean we still payed 20 dollars for that add on and the worst part of it all is that you can't seem to just not use dawnguard because that got even worse results for me.

Seems I was wise to buy the game a few months after it's release, and I'm yet to buy Dawnguard.

The kind of bugs I found was minor, such as falmer helmet and circlet being worn together and a few missing textures from the HD DLC.