Planet of the Geckos

Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:56 am

Anyone else notice the upright walking Geckos? Could this be a sign that they are evolving? Walking upright was a vital part of human evolution. Perhaps the Geckos will become the next intelligent species to rule the Earth? Just a thought.
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Danii Brown
 
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:30 pm

I dunno, it would still take millions of years. So no.
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Tiffany Holmes
 
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:05 pm

Radiation is a curious thing. Probably in a few hundred years if they aren't already wiped out they could grow some kind of sentient sense to their brain.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:52 am

Of course it would take millions of years to evolve intelligence in the real world; one that was not flooded with radiation; but walking upright is just one link in a long chain that could eventually lead to intelligence.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:47 pm

I dont exaclty know if radiations effects are that pronounced. I know it causes deformities and mutations, but i dont know if it can turn Geckos into the next sentient species to rule the earth.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:02 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rckm6mxPZIU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSLUwmJOo_M
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:13 pm

Real world Kangaroos evolved bipedalism ages ago and they aren't exactly the smartest critters on the block; and there were bipedal dinosaurs with tens of millions of years of documented evolution but there's no evidence they attained human-level intelligence. Bipedalism does free up a set of limps for manipulation and this can be great for pushing an animal towards intelligence - but there are many other factors involved.

While the Science! of the Fallout Universe could easily result in intelligent Geckos (it's done it for Deathclaws) I don't think there's much weight to this when using real world science.
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Post » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:51 am

I find it funny that people are saying it would take millions of years. It only took them 200 years to get to where they are now. Fallout mutations are wacky.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:32 pm

Geckos walked up right in FO2 as well what's the point? Did you also notice they are a hundred times bigger then they should be and some breath fire? Its clear that what ever made them that big also gave them tha ability to walk up right.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:28 pm

Basilisks and frilled lizards learned to sprint on two legs; the former across water, and the latter across sand. Perhaps the Core Region geckos merely got a 5 million year adaptation in under 100 years thanks to the magic of gamma radiation and FEV-1/2.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:54 pm

Eyes narrowing... the figure slowly continues chewing on his Gecko steak...


"Smart, nope not all all or this little bugger would have ran when I pulled out my shotgun instead of trying to bite me on the ass"
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:24 pm

Real world Kangaroos evolved bipedalism ages ago and they aren't exactly the smartest critters on the block; and there were bipedal dinosaurs with tens of millions of years of documented evolution but there's no evidence they attained human-level intelligence. Bipedalism does free up a set of limps for manipulation and this can be great for pushing an animal towards intelligence - but there are many other factors involved.

While the Science! of the Fallout Universe could easily result in intelligent Geckos (it's done it for Deathclaws) I don't think there's much weight to this when using real world science.


But the kangaroos weren't irradiated, and it's not real world science. It's a vido game. Wha-bam.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:50 pm

In the Fallout universe I think anything is possible. When it comes to real life though, I think we're doomed as a species to being the only truly intelligent lifeforms.

I'm not sure I'd like to know what an animal was thinking anyway...
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:08 pm

In the Fallout universe I think anything is possible. When it comes to real life though, I think we're doomed as a species to being the only truly intelligent lifeforms.

I'm not sure I'd like to know what an animal was thinking anyway...

We are animals... (just a pet peeve of mine when people separate us; the biology student in me speaking)

I'm sure some non-human lifeform out there in the real universe is "intellegent", though, but where are the little buggers?

As for what a non-human animal thinks, it's probably the same thing as a human animal:

six-eating-more six-more eating-six, again-video games :P
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:10 pm

We are animals... (just a pet peeve of mine when people separate us; the biology student in me speaking)

I'm sure some non-human lifeform out there in the real universe is "intellegent", though, but where are the little buggers?

As for what a non-human animal thinks, it's probably the same thing as a human animal:

six-eating-more six-more eating-six, again-video games :P


Yes, humans are mammals but we differ largely from every other form of life on this planet. Definitely drifting dangerously off-topic however...

Geckos I think could mutate into just about anything the developers wanted them to... Because it's a video game.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:50 pm

Yes, humans are mammals but we differ largely from every other form of life on this planet. Definitely drifting dangerously off-topic however...

Geckos I think could mutate into just about anything the developers wanted them to... Because it's a video game.

While we're on the topic of intelligent, Fallout-oriented reptiles, I think Deathclaws are the winners. Where are those talking ones?
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:42 pm

While we're on the topic of intelligent, Fallout-oriented reptiles, I think Deathclaws are the winners. Where are those talking ones?


Weren't they killed off by the Enclave?
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:01 am

Weren't they killed off by the Enclave?

Frank Horrigan punch?
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:19 am

It's very common for some species of animals, and a good defense/flee mechanism.

Watch the freaky lizard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAo09yYOpCU

Some lizards are so fast they can even run over water.

:)
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:10 pm

Frank Horrigan punch?


http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Talking_deathclaw
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:08 pm

But the kangaroos weren't irradiated, and it's not real world science. It's a vido game. Wha-bam.

Hence my comment, "While the Science! of the Fallout Universe could easily result in intelligent Geckos (it's done it for Deathclaws)."
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:48 pm

Lizards don't walk upright...they run. Their momentum helps them maintain their balance the same as it stops running humans from falling over (most times)...as soon as a lizard slows, it drops to all fours.

Kangaroos don't walk upright, they slow move by using their forelimbs and tail as two points of balance and moving the hindlegs forward. When they speed up, they hop. Their most energy efficient mode of movement is their high speed bounding...what they do is essentially lock their legs, and the massive tendons act as springs giving them a very strong lift off for the upward bound...as that happens their abdominal organs are still on the way down, and so draw the diaphragm downwards, thus expanding the lungs, as the 'roo comes down towards the ground again, the lungs exhale assisted on the landing by the body contracting on impact...and the process starts off again.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:42 pm

Lizards don't walk upright...they run. Their momentum helps them maintain their balance the same as it stops running humans from falling over (most times)...as soon as a lizard slows, it drops to all fours.

Kangaroos don't walk upright, they slow move by using their forelimbs and tail as two points of balance and moving the hindlegs forward. When they speed up, they hop. Their most energy efficient mode of movement is their high speed bounding...what they do is essentially lock their legs, and the massive tendons act as springs giving them a very strong lift off for the upward bound...as that happens their abdominal organs are still on the way down, and so draw the diaphragm downwards, thus expanding the lungs, as the 'roo comes down towards the ground again, the lungs exhale assisted on the landing by the body contracting on impact...and the process starts off again.


Cool. I learned something new today.
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Post » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:44 am

Lizards don't walk upright...they run. Their momentum helps them maintain their balance the same as it stops running humans from falling over (most times)...as soon as a lizard slows, it drops to all fours.

Kangaroos don't walk upright, they slow move by using their forelimbs and tail as two points of balance and moving the hindlegs forward. When they speed up, they hop. Their most energy efficient mode of movement is their high speed bounding...what they do is essentially lock their legs, and the massive tendons act as springs giving them a very strong lift off for the upward bound...as that happens their abdominal organs are still on the way down, and so draw the diaphragm downwards, thus expanding the lungs, as the 'roo comes down towards the ground again, the lungs exhale assisted on the landing by the body contracting on impact...and the process starts off again.

Well okay you're right about the momentum stuff. However long before I was around there were bipedal dinosaurs and they didn't fall over. So it's nothing new in nature...

BTW gecko's in NV behave more like the frilled lizard and I must say it's awesomely executed, whomever programmed the animation: :goodjob:
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:28 am

I'd say with the amount of Geckos I've killed they're more likely to be on the endangered species list than at the top of the evolutionary pyramid anytime soon.
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