Is It Possible to be Neutral : V

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:03 pm

Playing as a "Knight-errant" for my third attempt at Skyrim.

I do like like either the, 'Imperials', the 'Stormcloaks', need to over through each other.

Wish to play this grand game as a pure neutral.

Your input and wish to assist me in my attempt in being 'nuetral' is much appreciated.

Many thanks to any and or all responders. :biggrin:

drybones

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:05 am

Yes, just choose not to join either of them. You can do all the quests for all the jarls of Skyrim and be made thane of each town and ignore the politics.

There is that bit in the Main quest as well where you can choose to be even-handed with them both.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:53 am

Yeah, just stick to that. You'll probably like the outcome.

Not really a spoiler, but I *think* the main downside is you'll never get access to one of the cooler housing options, if you go this route.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:59 pm

I'm gonna try to be neutral on my third charachter.

Right now I'm doing Imps. Don't feel like trying out Stormcloaks.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:57 am

Playing as a "Knight-errant" for my third attempt at Skyrim.

I do like like either the, 'Imperials', the 'Stormcloaks', need to over through each other.

Wish to play this grand game as a pure neutral.

Your input and wish to assist me in my attempt in being 'nuetral' is much appreciated.

Many thanks to any and or all responders. :biggrin:

drybones

Side with the Empire then do the emperor in, pretty much what I did on my first playthrough.
Now both sides are [censored].

And you can still get the house, without joining the Stormcloaks as well. No cheats neccessary.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:22 pm

Here's hoping neutrality plays an integral part in the Expansions, as it (kinda) did in the Main Quest.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:37 pm

Yes, just choose not to join either of them. You can do all the quests for all the jarls of Skyrim and be made thane of each town and ignore the politics.

There is that bit in the Main quest as well where you can choose to be even-handed with them both.

I can't confirm this as a fact, but for me I couldn't be thane of Windhelm if I didn't join the Stormcloaks and before I cleared out a couople of forts from Imperial soldiers.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:30 am

I can't confirm this as a fact, but for me I couldn't be thane of Windhelm if I didn't join the Stormcloaks and before I cleared out a couople of forts from Imperial soldiers.

Maybe dependant on how far through the MQ you are as well, I certainly had the house before I became an Imperial.
Could be possibly related to the MQ when you have everyone around the table, possibly linked to a decision you make there.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:22 am

Of course it is. I have yet to do any of the quest lines because all of my characters have been neutral.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:12 am

I can't confirm this as a fact, but for me I couldn't be thane of Windhelm if I didn't join the Stormcloaks and before I cleared out a couople of forts from Imperial soldiers.

Yes, I don't think its possible to become thane of Windhelm without joining the Stormcloaks.

The others including Solitude are not a problem though.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:32 am

Yes, I don't think its possible to become thane of Windhelm without joining the Stormcloaks.

The others including Solitude are not a problem though.

You can, that is what myself and Hectic are saying.
I certainly have done so and got the house and then finished the game up siding with the Imperials.
No need to be a Stormcloak at all.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:33 pm

And you can still get the house, without joining the Stormcloaks as well. No cheats neccessary.

Nice ... but how? I mean how without having to join either side? I've played through and completed the MQ, but there doesn't seem to be any way (that I have discovered) of getting the Windhelm house whilst in neutral, so would appreciate knowing how

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:28 am

I plan on ignoring the Civil War on future plays. That is how I will stay neutral.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:53 pm

Nice ... but how? I mean how without having to join either side? I've played through and completed the MQ, but there doesn't seem to be any way (that I have discovered) of getting the Windhelm house whilst in neutral, so would appreciate knowing how :smile:

You answered your own question, you have completed the MQ. So for you there is probably no chance as you will have probably pissed of the Stormcloaks during the negotiations.
Also it may be like Falkreath that won't allow you to do radiant quests if you have one open already from another hold.
If you really wanted you could go to Windhelm right at the start of the game and have a go at getting the house as you first priority, but you don't need to.
Hopefully someone will get the full list of conditions needed once the CK is out later today. But being a Stormcloak isn't one of them

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:49 am

Personally, I despise both sides.

Spoiler

When you sit at the table and talk with both leaders for the main quest, you realise that they are just a bunch of imature brats, worse than 10 year old brothers crying to mommy for attention.

Now I've joined the Empire, just for the achievement.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:58 am

You answered your own question, you have completed the MQ. So for you there is probably no chance as you will have probably pissed of the Stormcloaks during the negotiations.
Also it may be like Falkreath that won't allow you to do radiant quests if you have one open already from another hold.
If you really wanted you could go to Windhelm right at the start of the game and have a go at getting the house as you first priority, but you don't need to.
Hopefully someone will get the full list of conditions needed once the CK is out later today. But being a Stormcloak isn't one of them

Thanks. I will go try it now. I've just completed the right bit of the MQ and that's the only town where I'm not a thane.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:41 pm

Thanks to all. :biggrin:

You have given me food for thought.

Must stay away from main quest if at all possible until I get the two sides together at the
Greybeard table to stop this STUPID WAR.

Your thoughts on this?

drybones

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:28 pm

... you will have probably pissed of the Stormcloaks during the negotiations.

aye, I do recall Ulfric hissy-fitting about my decision.

I have a new character going at the moment which is ignoring the MQ for now, so I will have a go with this one - thanks for the advice.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:57 pm

Must stay away from main quest if at all possible until I get the two sides together at the
Greybeard table to stop this STUPID WAR.

Your thoughts on this?

You can manipulate the civil war and determine which battles you will have to fight by doing it this way.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:13 am

You answered your own question, you have completed the MQ. So for you there is probably no chance as you will have probably pissed of the Stormcloaks during the negotiations.
Also it may be like Falkreath that won't allow you to do radiant quests if you have one open already from another hold.
If you really wanted you could go to Windhelm right at the start of the game and have a go at getting the house as you first priority, but you don't need to.
Hopefully someone will get the full list of conditions needed once the CK is out later today. But being a Stormcloak isn't one of them

I just tried it and it doesn't seem to work. Ulfric doesn't have any new conversation, but he was happy with the outcome of the negotiations. I think I've done most if not all the minor quests around Windhelm as well.
My radiant quests are clear as well as I had just finished the Falkreath jarl ones.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:30 am

Playing as a "Knight-errant" for my third attempt at Skyrim.

I do like like either the, 'Imperials', the 'Stormcloaks', need to over through each other.

Wish to play this grand game as a pure neutral.

To be honest I don't see how you can play the game as pure good or pure evil. Way too many 'grey' quest options. IMO neutral is the only way you can play even if you are trying to be good (which I usually do).

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:11 am

Hi to all.

How about, "The Companions"???

They are just a fighter guild are they not?

What say you all?

drybones

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:39 am

To be honest I don't see how you can play the game as pure good or pure evil. Way too many 'grey' quest options. IMO neutral is the only way you can play even if you are trying to be good (which I usually do).

Playing neutral(what were you born with a heart of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeKTtkH_8Tc?) is actually sort of evil past a certain point in the main quest.

Spoiler

When you find out the civil war continuing in its indecisive fashion is furthering the thalmor goals. And given the thalmor want to kill all mankind and then destroy the world...

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:27 am

Hi to all.

How about, "The Companions"???

They are just a fighter guild are they not?

What say you all?

drybones

They're not just a fighter guild, no.. but that's the closest equivalent. Play it and see. It's short enough.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:09 pm

Spoiler

If you are Altmer and believe in the Dominion goals, then by all means go for the neutral solution. The Thalmor want to destroy humanity. That's why they banned Talos.
If you are a milk-drinker and Thalmor lap dog then side with the Imperials.
If you are a true Nord, Ulfric Stormcloak needs your help.